Nysw?

[Unoriginal]

Are there any routes to run NYSW stuff on? I'm just starting to get more into regional railroads recently. Heck are there any other NYSW stock packs outside of the BLW one? (which I already have).

I saw some nice Susie Q SD70M-2 skins shown in the screenshot forum, but just knowing the "landscape" now, they'll probably never come out.

[fleegle411]

The L&HR routes cover a decent chunk of what is today NYS&W territory, albeit in years past. I think NYS&W power looks okay on the 1968 version. There are some decent Susquehanna reskins in the file library that use the Danny Beck ex-SLI shapes.

[CSRX]

I typically run NYSW on the L&HR route, or the Dominion Atlantic route. Let's face it, that route can fit pretty much anywhere in New England, and a few changes you could even make it midwest or southern areas. Paul did a heck of a job with it.

Anyways, there are some decent repaints in the library, from Chris Wallace and Marshal Starks, which I use majority of the time.

nssd70mnysw.zip
nysw_sd60.zip
nyswsd40-2.zip
nysw_b40-8.zip

These ones are a bit on the dated side, someday I will repaint the newer model from TS, but when I actually get the repainting bug again, will be beyond me.

su40t-2p.zip

[Unoriginal]

Lucky I already have both those routes! I’ll see what I can come up with then. I also do think they ran on the D&H for awhile, so the bridge line could probably work too.

Glad the B40-8 exists, they we’re pretty much everywhere in the 80s and 90s, though I wish more numbers were available.

[CSRX]

Yes, they did run the D&H in the late 80's early 90's when Guilford abandoned the D&H, and before CPRail became the owners of the line (in a sense, D&H is a CSXT heritage, not CP, but there will be a lot of anti Guilford folks that will gladly argue that, haha).

The plan when Jason sent me the B40-8, was to do more, but I never did, and released it as is years ago.

[Unoriginal]

I also know SD45s and F45s were common. I haven’t seen anyone do any renditions of those unless I’m missing something.

The BN SD45 from the new TS SD45 pack could actually be a cool candidate for some Susie Q reskins.

[Unoriginal]

Oh yeah BTW, the models needed for both the SD60s and SD70Ms you gave the zip names of require unavailable models.

Theres a chance the SD60s could still use the CNW shape as they should be the same specs as the required SOO, but I am unable to test that.

[jasonjedi1]

The LH&R route is a good one to run NYSW on.

[wwhall]

I also know SD45s and F45s were common. I haven’t seen anyone do any renditions of those unless I’m missing something.

The BN SD45 from the new TS SD45 pack could actually be a cool candidate for some Susie Q reskins.

The F45's are here at Trainsm nyswf45.zip .They date from 2005, but are actually pretty decent models for that era of MSTS.

[Unoriginal]

Eh, I might pass on those. I've seen them before and they just ain't for me.

[Unoriginal]

The LH&R route is a good one to run NYSW on.

That's nice. Although I don't think they carry intermodal trains anymore, especially with gunderson wellcars. Though it's cool to see a modern "what if".

I assume the reskins are yours and probably can't be given out.

[jasonjedi1]

That's nice. Although I don't think they carry intermodal trains anymore, especially with gunderson wellcars. Though it's cool to see a modern "what if".

I assume the reskins are yours and probably can't be given out.

There my personal repaints, but the model isn't 100% correct. There using the CN model. Honestly doing the documents and such to upload. Just to probably have someone complain about what I did wrong. Just makes it not worth it too me to upload. They were just a side fun project to do one day.

[dcarleton]

...D&H is a CSXT heritage...

Very interesting observation.

For the benefit of folks who may not be aware -- at one time the N&W controlled the Erie Lackawanna and the D&H, but they didn't really want either one. After the EL sustained major damage in hurricane Agnes the N&W allowed the EL to go into bankruptcy, ending N&W control of the EL. The original plan for Conrail was to include some form of competition, and the Chessie System (which soon became CSX) intended to purchase a big chunk of the EL and a piece of the Reading. When the clock ran out on that deal, instead the D&H was granted running rights over Conrail extending out to connections with both the Chessie and the N&W. Very limited running rights, as it turned out. The D&H became even weaker.

When the N&W and the Southern decided to merge, the ICC was clear that they N&W had to either fix the D&H or sell it. Guilford was a willing buyer; but ultimately, they allowed the D&H to go into bankruptcy. The bankruptcy court appointed the Delaware Otsego corporation as the designated operator of the D&H. Delaware Otsego had gotten into the railroad business when they purchased the Cooperstown Branch of the D&H. That branch is included in the Bridgeline route from MLT. But Delaware Otsego's biggest railroad operation was the NYSW, and the NYSW became the designated operator of the D&H.

The NYSW was able to pick up an order for B40-8s because CSX arranged the financing. Delaware Otsego tried hard to buy out the D&H, but the winning bidder turned out to be CP. Most of the NYSW B40s ended up on CSX, because CSX had financed them. But it is significant that CSX was willing to make the investment where the N&W didn't.

[CSRX]

Very interesting observation.

For the benefit of folks who may not be aware -- at one time the N&W controlled the Erie Lackawanna and the D&H, but they didn't really want either one. After the EL sustained major damage in hurricane Agnes the N&W allowed the EL to go into bankruptcy, ending N&W control of the EL. The original plan for Conrail was to include some form of competition, and the Chessie System (which soon became CSX) intended to purchase a big chunk of the EL and a piece of the Reading. When the clock ran out on that deal, instead the D&H was granted running rights over Conrail extending out to connections with both the Chessie and the N&W. Very limited running rights, as it turned out. The D&H became even weaker.

When the N&W and the Southern decided to merge, the ICC was clear that they N&W had to either fix the D&H or sell it. Guilford was a willing buyer; but ultimately, they allowed the D&H to go into bankruptcy. The bankruptcy court appointed the Delaware Otsego corporation as the designated operator of the D&H. Delaware Otsego had gotten into the railroad business when they purchased the Cooperstown Branch of the D&H. That branch is included in the Bridgeline route from MLT. But Delaware Otsego's biggest railroad operation was the NYSW, and the NYSW became the designated operator of the D&H.

The NYSW was able to pick up an order for B40-8s because CSX arranged the financing. Delaware Otsego tried hard to buy out the D&H, but the winning bidder turned out to be CP. Most of the NYSW B40s ended up on CSX, because CSX had financed them. But it is significant that CSX was willing to make the investment where the N&W didn't.

I personally say it's a CSXT heritage, because in a sense, Guilford at the time had purchased the D&H name and rail lines as a whole, they abandoned the rail line, but kept most of the power until they sold or scrapped.

In a sense, CP just bought the trackage, under the SOO, only after the state of New York designated the NYS&W as operator.

I also say this, because Vermont Railway under the Claredon & Pittsford Railroad had purchased the D&H line from Whitehall, NY to Rutland, VT, and the Battenkill Railroad owns and operates from Eagle Bridge, north.

[llanning08]

You can get the required SLI shape files by digging around in the Danny Beck files here in the Trainsim Library. Search danny_beck_ to find all of them. The Danny Beck files are a great resource for older SLI engines that are no longer available. The files required for su40t-2p.zip are found in the payware MLT Cascades Crossing route which is still available (and a very nice route itself)..