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  • dkingsburg
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    • May 2010
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    #1

    Scale Rail Lehigh Valley Consists.

    I just Downloaded the SR LV and Discovered the Consists Listed in the Activities Folder DO NOT Exist in My Consist File or in TSRE. Am I Missing Something?
    DaveK
  • crstagg
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    #2
    Originally posted by dkingsburg
    I just Downloaded the SR LV and Discovered the Consists Listed in the Activities Folder DO NOT Exist in My Consist File or in TSRE. Am I Missing Something?
    DaveK
    ?????? I don't have the route, but I am Viewing Contents of file: MSTS ScaleRail Lehigh Valley Route: sr_lehigh.zip from the forum. Doing a search on the web page​ for the word "consists" and get 0/0 found. So, it appears that no consists were provided in the download. There are activities so I assume that they use default consists and default rolling stock as no Trainset files are provided either.

    Did you install in the same install as the 6 MSTS default routes as the Readme required?
    Charles

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    • dkingsburg
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      #3
      Charles,
      I did it Step by Step and When I Opened TSRE Consist Builder that's When I Discovered the problem. The Services Folder Gives the Correct name for the Consist but theyt aren't there.
      DaveK

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      • crstagg
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        #4
        Originally posted by dkingsburg
        Charles,
        I did it Step by Step and When I Opened TSRE Consist Builder that's When I Discovered the problem. The Services Folder Gives the Correct name for the Consist but theyt aren't there.
        DaveK
        Does that include the file MSTS Activity For the Scalerail Lehigh Valley: ogo-lv-001.zip?
        Charles

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        • R. Steele
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          #5
          Eric has done considerable work in improving the TrainSim search engine, both for the Forum and the Library.

          Using the search term ( with the quotes ) "ScaleRail Lehigh Valley" I turned up all sorts of threads going back to 2009.....and is this thread you will find your answer.

          I just installed the new MSTS ScaleRail Lehigh Valley Route and when I try to start one of the activities, I get... "Error reading train database file" "File:Trains\Consist\LV C628s FFE-1.con" ------------ ---------- ------------------- Service FFE-12, path "FFE-1", setup after load failed.


          Charles got in one....consists from original MSTS are required...I keep all the MSTS routes in a temp folder in case they are needed to run a bat file for a new route, also have all the original consists in the same temp folder in case they are called for.




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          • dkingsburg
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            #6
            Charles,
            I Just Deleted the Route since There are No Consists.
            When they did the File Cleanout they Removed a Lot of Routes But They Left the Activity Files for Those Routes in the Freight Activity File. What Good is that if you can't Download the Route?. If they Had left the Original LV Route in at Least People Could Download and use it. They Left the Funpack of Activities for the Original LV But What Good is it if the Route isn't there!
            DaveK

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            • crstagg
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              #7
              Originally posted by dkingsburg
              Charles,
              I Just Deleted the Route since There are No Consists.
              When they did the File Cleanout they Removed a Lot of Routes But They Left the Activity Files for Those Routes in the Freight Activity File. What Good is that if you can't Download the Route?. If they Had left the Original LV Route in at Least People Could Download and use it. They Left the Funpack of Activities for the Original LV But What Good is it if the Route isn't there!
              DaveK
              First you say "I Just Deleted the Route." By that one would assume that you selected the route folder and deleted it and all its consists. But then you say, "When they did the File Cleanout ,,,," Which indicated you ran an uninstaller. So. I ask you "How are the creators of the uninstaller supposed to know that you installed some third party's activities?" It is up to you to delete any leftover files the uninstaller failed to remove.
              Charles

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              • eric
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                #8
                Dave is probably referring to pulling older routes from the file library here.

                Old activities can be updated to work with new versions of the route, which is why they remain.
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                • eric
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                  #9
                  I just spent about two minutes of time searching for "MSTS Lehigh Valley Route" and it's still available.........

                  So Dave, once again, I'm really not sure what you're complaining about.

                  The only items tagged for removal were the 7 part download from the original submission because someone created a single download of the 2003 route, and there's no point keeping a full download plus the spanned download. They're still available to download because nothing was actually removed.

                  The fact that default MSTS consists were used is an assumption that many early route and activity builders made, and it hasn't exactly aged well.
                  Last edited by eric; 10-09-2023, 15:10.
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                  • dkingsburg
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                    #10
                    Charles,
                    I Deleted the Scale Rail Route Cause there are No Consists for it that I Could Find.
                    What I Meant was When TrainSim Cleaned Out and Redid the Files a Few Months Ago the Original Multi Part LV Route went away. I Just Typed in MSTS Lehigh Valley Route and all that came up we're 2 Scematics Pages. I went Through the Entire Routes File Last Week and I Did Not Find the Older LV Route. Just the Scale rail Version.
                    DaveK

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                    • dkingsburg
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                      #11
                      Eric,
                      How Do You Update the Older Versions of Activities to Make them Work with Newer Versions of the Route?
                      DaveK

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                      • eric
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                        #12
                        There are two Scalerail downloads, one for those with the route, and one without the route.

                        Those without the route should download file # 75350 (put that number alone into the description search)

                        If you really want the original route, go with files 60806 thru 60812
                        Last edited by eric; 10-10-2023, 01:29.
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                        • eric
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by dkingsburg
                          Eric,
                          How Do You Update the Older Versions of Activities to Make them Work with Newer Versions of the Route?
                          DaveK
                          Updating the paths is usually all that's needed. You can do that in TrackViewer.

                          Paths with the activity will have old TDB references and would need to be updated to reflect the new TDB references.

                          If there are major changes to the track, then it would be a little more involved and and require knowing how to build an activity file.
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                          • dkingsburg
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                            #14
                            I just went through the 396 Files in the Route Holding Area and Found Only the Scale Rail LV and 7 Part LV Downloads.
                            DaveK

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                            • eric
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                              #15
                              That's what we have -- the seven parts.

                              Nothing's been deleted -- it's just moved into cold storage because the new Scalerail version replaced it.
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