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  • dkingsburg
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 564
    • Cabot, Arkansas
    • MSOR

    #1

    Blw/zt emd switchers

    I Have Several BLW/ZT EMD Switchers in My Activities. As usual they Are Excellent Detailed as Everything from BLW/ZT is. However at Idle and When They Throttle Up They Sound Just Like an ALCO 539 Powered Unit Including the Classic ALCO Turbo Sound. These are EMD's with Roots Blowers not Alco's. How Can I Fix This? I Have all Types of Sound in My Common Sound Folder
    Including an EMD SW Sound File. Would it Mess the BLW/ZT System up if I Installed the EMD SW Sound Files?
    Thankyou,
    DaveK
  • spoony1999
    Senior Member


    • Aug 2007
    • 309
    • Illinois
    • MSOR

    #2
    Originally posted by dkingsburg
    I Have Several BLW/ZT EMD Switchers in My Activities. As usual they Are Excellent Detailed as Everything from BLW/ZT is. However at Idle and When They Throttle Up They Sound Just Like an ALCO 539 Powered Unit Including the Classic ALCO Turbo Sound. These are EMD's with Roots Blowers not Alco's. How Can I Fix This? I Have all Types of Sound in My Common Sound Folder
    Including an EMD SW Sound File. Would it Mess the BLW/ZT System up if I Installed the EMD SW Sound Files?
    Thankyou,
    DaveK
    No, change the sound like you would on any other engine

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    • derekmorton
      5500 Post Veteran



      • Nov 1999
      • 5699
      • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
      • ORTS

      #3
      Which loco was it, I will need to check all of mine?

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      • rfranzosa
        1000 Post Veteran


        • Mar 2005
        • 1302
        • Cincinnati, OH, USA.

        #4
        I'm interested as well. If there is an issue, Gaetan and I will want to address it with a patch.

        I'm not going to be near my system until next week, or I would check it myself.


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        • dkingsburg
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 564
          • Cabot, Arkansas
          • MSOR

          #5
          The Consist is BLW_ZT_DLW_2 from the L&HR 1940's Route. I Tried EMD Switchers, GP7s and Even GP35's. No Matter what EMD Engine I Used I Got the ALCO 539 Engine idle and the 539 Turbo Sound when I Reved it up. No Other Activities do it.
          DaveK

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          • rfranzosa
            1000 Post Veteran


            • Mar 2005
            • 1302
            • Cincinnati, OH, USA.

            #6
            Wow!

            I wonder how a specific route or activity could override a sound file?


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            • rdayt
              1000 Post Veteran

              • Nov 2007
              • 1291
              • SW MO
              • ORTS

              #7
              This is what my install for a SW 1 looks like.
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              Do you have the BLW sound packs installed?

              Randy

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              • dkingsburg
                Senior Member
                • May 2010
                • 564
                • Cabot, Arkansas
                • MSOR

                #8
                Randy,
                I do Have the BLW Sound Packs Installed. I Even Installed Other EMD Sound Files from MSTS such as SW Sound and Changed the eng & cab sms Files and Removed and Installed the Other Files and Still No Change.
                DaveK

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                • llanning08
                  Member

                  • May 2010
                  • 99
                  • MIdland Texas
                  • MSOR

                  #9
                  Consist BLW_ZT_DLW_2 calls for a DL&W ALCO RS3 and was installed as part of the BLW-ZT Maybrook Set Bonus #1 (not from the L&HR 1940's Route itself).. The DL&W ALCO RS3 Sound folder does call for ALCO sounds. Did you swap out this RS3 for an EMD SW switcher or GP9?
                  Last edited by llanning08; 10-07-2023, 13:11.

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                  • dkingsburg
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 564
                    • Cabot, Arkansas
                    • MSOR

                    #10
                    I did use the Consist to Test Out Locomotives I Had Ordered or Downloaded. I Just Never Realized that Consists we're Created to only Use 1 Type of Locomotive. I have Modified Plenty of other Locomotive Consists and Everything Worked Properly. This is the First Time I Ever Ran into this Problem.
                    DaveK

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                    • derekmorton
                      5500 Post Veteran



                      • Nov 1999
                      • 5699
                      • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
                      • ORTS

                      #11
                      I think it is more likely that you have been modifying the wrong consist.

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                      • llanning08
                        Member

                        • May 2010
                        • 99
                        • MIdland Texas
                        • MSOR

                        #12
                        The Consist file calls the particular engine or wagon, the sound is a function of the contents of the called .ENG or .WAG file. Consists are not restricted to only one kind of engine, they configure any selected group of Engines and/or Wagons, ie: the Consist. Sound is not a parameter of the Consist file.

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                        • slipperman
                          3500 Post Veteran



                          • May 2010
                          • 3787
                          • Worksop, UK
                          • MSOR

                          #13
                          Hi All,
                          Having just purchased the BLW Alco Sound Pack, I may have found the cause of Dave's confusion.

                          The supplied BLW/Alco sound folder (for adding into the Common.snd folder) contains .sms files for each different loco, but they CANNOT be used from their supplied position because the aliasing is wrong. They MUST be copied into each individual loco's SOUND folder and called from the individual Sound lines.
                          Also, the .sms files in the common.snd folder cannot be aliased from the .eng file's Sound lines because the aliasing within the .sms file isn't correct for using in that way.

                          As I read it, the readme doesn't make it clear that the appropriate .sms files must be copied into the loco's Sound folder.

                          Because of the location of the supplied .sms files, if my sms_Checker utility is run, it will report virtually all of the .wav files as 'not found'. There is, unfortunately, nothing I can do about that!

                          Cheers,
                          Ged
                          Last edited by slipperman; 10-09-2023, 13:07.

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