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  • R. Steele
    3500 Post Veteran

    • Feb 2013
    • 3928
    • known universe
    • ORTS

    #16
    Laptop or Desktop???....if a laptop it may have two graphics cards --- an intel laptop card will cause both OR and TSRE to have running problems. Jerky motion for OR and failure to load with TSRE.

    IF a laptop and it has two graphic cards make sure both OR and TSRE are using the non-intel card.

    Cheers, Gerry
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    • derekmorton
      5500 Post Veteran



      • Nov 1999
      • 5699
      • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
      • ORTS

      #17
      Can you provide the full specs of the machine?

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      • motormaster532
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 465
        • New York

        #18
        Another thing is,if you are running an intensive "Activity",lots of static or loose consists with plenty of AI Trains in a highly developed Route such as a "TrainSimulations" Route then you probably dont have enough power to run it in a satisfying way. Running Open Rails exclusive Routes AND Rolling stock puts a much greater "drag" on your system. What Route or Routes are giving you the problems and then we might be able to give a more concise and pertinent solution. It sounds,simply that your system just does,nt have the power to do what you want it to do here. Iam in the same boat actually. Just a few more adjustments and my NEW alienware will be up and running. On the old one,where FPS rates were lucky to hit 70,I tested on the new one and got almost 300!. Maybe you should look into investing in a Gaming computer. Take Care. Brian

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        • CSRX
          13500 Post Veteran



          • Oct 2005
          • 13646
          • Lincoln, ME
          • English
          • ORTS

          #19
          It's weird how so many people have problems with McAfee. It gives me zero problems when on my computer, and using ORTS or TSRE.

          Then again, I have a Legion gaming laptop from Lenovo..
          -Shawn K-
          MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
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          • eric
            9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



            • Dec 2002
            • 9583
            • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
            • English, SQL
            • General

            #20
            Originally posted by dkingsburg
            When I try to OK the log I Get a Popup Saying 20.3 KB Exceeds Limit of 19.5 KB.
            Try uploading the log file again -- I raised the upload limit for log files.


            I have OpenAL32.dll in the following *two* locations:

            For TSRE: inside the TSRE application directory e.g. e:\TSRE\OpenAL32.dll

            For ORTS: in a set of subdirectories off my ORTS application directory e.g. e:\ORTS\Native\X64\OpenAL32.dll and e:\ORTS\Native\X32\OpenAL32.dll -- with the applicable version of OpenAL32.dll installed in the X32 and X64 directories.
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            • dkingsburg
              Senior Member
              • May 2010
              • 564
              • Cabot, Arkansas
              • MSOR

              #21
              So What do I Need to do to Fix Everything. At 11:30PM Tuesday Night Everything Worked Fine. At 7:00AM Wednesday Morning Everything Was Screwed Up. Even My Run 8 Program is Screwed Up?
              DaveK

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              • TrainSimJack
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2022
                • 527

                #22
                Dave were there any updates, like windows, nvidia drivers, etc?

                If you're saying things suddenly changed, it wouldn't surprise me if some kind of system update is responsible.

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                • dkingsburg
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 564
                  • Cabot, Arkansas
                  • MSOR

                  #23
                  Hi Derek, It's A Dell Inspiron 3020 Desktop i5 Windows 11 Home, 16GB DDR4, 512GB SSD, with an Nvidia GeForce RTX3060 Graphics Card.
                  DaveK

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                  • dkingsburg
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 564
                    • Cabot, Arkansas
                    • MSOR

                    #24
                    Brian,
                    Up Till Tuesday Night at 11:30PM Everything Ran Great on All My Routes and TSRE. I Have Sand Patch, Bridge Line, USA2, S-Line, Florida Funnel, KHP2, Shuswap, L&HR 1940, and L&HR 4.
                    Any Activity with too Many AI Trains I wont Run and I'll Delete it if it's a Downloaded Activity.
                    DaveK

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                    • dkingsburg
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 564
                      • Cabot, Arkansas
                      • MSOR

                      #25
                      Eric, I Have OpenAL32.dll in the same 2 Locations. I Just Tried to Upload the Log File and now it's up to 393.8KB and the limit is 97.7.
                      DaveK

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                      • slipperman
                        3500 Post Veteran



                        • May 2010
                        • 3787
                        • Worksop, UK
                        • MSOR

                        #26
                        Hi Dave,
                        Silly question!! At 11:30 on Tuesday night, did you just power off the PC or did you close Windows 'properly' by using the 'Shut Down' option?
                        If the former, Windows could have been in the middle of updating something when you cut the power resulting in any number of problems!

                        Cheers,
                        Ged


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                        • spoony1999
                          Senior Member


                          • Aug 2007
                          • 309
                          • Illinois
                          • MSOR

                          #27
                          Originally posted by motormaster532
                          Another thing is,if you are running an intensive "Activity",lots of static or loose consists with plenty of AI Trains in a highly developed Route such as a "TrainSimulations" Route then you probably dont have enough power to run it in a satisfying way. Running Open Rails exclusive Routes AND Rolling stock puts a much greater "drag" on your system. What Route or Routes are giving you the problems and then we might be able to give a more concise and pertinent solution. It sounds,simply that your system just does,nt have the power to do what you want it to do here. Iam in the same boat actually. Just a few more adjustments and my NEW alienware will be up and running. On the old one,where FPS rates were lucky to hit 70,I tested on the new one and got almost 300!. Maybe you should look into investing in a Gaming computer. Take Care. Brian
                          I can't run PRR East on my computer without constant stutter at 30-40fps. Other routes like Shasta and Mullan run fantastic with no stutter at the same frame rates.

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                          • dkingsburg
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 564
                            • Cabot, Arkansas
                            • MSOR

                            #28
                            Ged, I Just Closed my Files and Left the Computer On Like I Always do. I've Done it that way since I got the Computer and No issues. I Got it New in March 2023.
                            No Notifications or Indications that Anything Had Updated or Needed Updating. Everything Ran Smooth Like it has Since I Got the Computer till I Stopped at 11:30PM Tuesday Night.
                            Wednesday morning at 7:00 AM TSRE Wouldn't Show Consists or Just the inside of the Item and Would Not Let Me View any more Consists. Then it Would Freeze Up and Close Down After Viewing 1 Consist.
                            On the Train Set Side Some Cars Would Show Up and Others would have a Black Car Body or A Coupler or a Truck Frame and Then After Viewing A Group of Cars it Would Freeze
                            and Close. Eventually it Wouldn't Open at All. I Get the Consist Editor Page and an Inventory of Consists and Directories but When I Click the Green Load Bar it Closes.
                            Open Rails Worked but It Was Slow and Stuttered. Then it Stopped and I got A Popup Saying that 3 File Items We're Missing.
                            DaveK

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                            • dkingsburg
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 564
                              • Cabot, Arkansas
                              • MSOR

                              #29
                              I Probably Screwed Up but I Copied the Files from the Update Stage Folder to the Open Rails Folder. I can Open and Run an Activity using the Menu or Application Files from the Open Rails Folder Only! From My Desktop I get a Popup Saying Files are Missing and it Will Not Run!
                              DaveK

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                              • dkingsburg
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 564
                                • Cabot, Arkansas
                                • MSOR

                                #30
                                I Reinstalled OR 1.5.1 and it Works from My Desktop But it's Still Slow, Stutters and has a Lot of Static.
                                DaveK

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