SoCal route

[michelouim]

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I enjoy the SoCal route since i have downloaded it. I am in the process of doing some activities. Some of them are Passengers related. My question is about the LAUPT, i would like to know who was using it before Amtrak, my guess is ATSF and UP. Was SP using it too? Were there any passengers trains from other railroads using it too? And the bigger question, anyone knows on which track(s) they were for arrival or departure?

Thank you for your help.

Michel

[jdgremsjr]

Please, place this post in the right place if it is not for here.

I enjoy the SoCal route since i have downloaded it. I am in the process of doing some activities. Some of them are Passengers related. My question is about the LAUPT, i would like to know who was using it before Amtrak, my guess is ATSF and UP. Was SP using it too? Were there any passengers trains from other railroads using it too? And the bigger question, anyone knows on which track(s) they were for arrival or departure?

Thank you for your help.

Michel

For what is it worth, according to wikipedia, "Approved in a controversial ballot measure in 1926 and built in the 1930s, it served to consolidate rail services from the Union Pacific, Santa Fe, and Southern Pacific Railroads into one terminal station. Conceived on a grand scale, Union Station became known as the "Last of the Great Railway Stations" built in the United States. The structure combines Art Deco, Mission Revival, and Streamline Moderne style. It was placed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1980."


Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_..._(Los_Angeles)

[eric]

SP was definitely using it -- they were the largest owner.

Ownership was divided up as 44% Southern Pacific, 33% Santa Fe, and 23% to the Los Angeles & Salt Lake (leased by UP at the time LAUPT was created, and later absorbed into the UP).

[michelouim]

Thank you both for the reply...will have to get consists for them.

Where there tracks assigned to each railroads? or were the tracks used freely? or maybe some assigned for arrivals and some for departure whatever the railroad?

[eric]

I couldn't find anything that indicated preferential tracks, but my guess is that the platforming *may* have followed a SP-UP-ATSF assignment from closest to the station to the furthest.

Photos I've seen taken from the stub end of the tracks seem to show SP on the left, UP in the middle, and ATSF on the right. That aligns with the tracks leaving Mission Junction --- ATSF swung south and north before the river, UP headed across the river and to the southeast, while SP headed both east across the river (that's where their shops were) and also to the north. Nothing would preclude putting a train on any track, but keeping it more or less aligned with the entry/exit would be the fewest amount of levers for the tower and also allow parallel movements.

Maybe someone a little more familiar with LAUPT knows for sure.

[michelouim]

Thank you Eric...i will go with that