Open Rails Throttle Type Replacement( For Diesels ) How To?

[marklester01]

There's 2 ways to add( well, several, but I basically mean The other way ). I've got The "Revised ORTS Way". But then, there's the other way ( example from v2 Standard Loco.Physics ). Now, Where do I add & place till? Yes, I've looked @ one file that has that set-up compared to a "ORTS Revised Standard": ( excuse the long example ahead of time ):

ORTSDieselEngines ( 1
Diesel (
IdleRPM ( 315 )
MaxRPM ( 1050 )
StartingRPM ( 215 )
StartingConfirmRPM ( 365 )
ChangeUpRPMps ( 92 )
ChangeDownRPMps ( 58 )
RateOfChangeUpRPMpSS ( 14 )
RateOfChangeDownRPMpSS ( 9 )
MaximalPower ( 3392935W )
IdleExhaust ( 1.2 )
MaxExhaust ( 2.2 )
ExhaustDynamics ( 1.6 )
ExhaustDynamicsDown ( 0.8 )
ExhaustColor ( 20161819 )
ExhaustTransientColor ( 40212324 )
DieselPowerTab (
0 0
407 424303
499 848607
591 1272164
683 1696468
775 2120771
867 2545074
959 2968632
1050 3392935
)
DieselConsumptionTab (
0 0
315 13.6
1050 798.6
)
ThrottleRPMTab (
0 315
12.5 407
25 499
37.5 591
50 683
62.5 775
75 867
87.5 959
100 1050
)
DieselTorqueTab (
0 0
315 102852
407 79603
499 64927
591 54820
683 47436
775 41804
867 37368
959 33784
1050 30856
)
MinOilPressure ( 30psi )
MaxOilPressure ( 90psi )
MaxTemperature ( 120degc )
Cooling ( 3 )
TempTimeConstant ( 720 )
OptTemperature ( 71degc )
IdleTemperature ( 55degc )
)
)
ORTSEmergencyCausesThrottleDown ( 1 )
ORTSWheelSlipCausesThrottleDown ( 1 )
ORTSMainResChargingRate ( 0.4psi/s )
ORTSBrakePipeChargingRate ( 200psi/s )
ORTSEngineBrakeReleaseRate ( 38psi/s )
ORTSEngineBrakeApplicationRate ( 34psi/s )
ORTSBrakePipeTimeFactor ( 0.003 )
ORTSBrakeEmergencyTimeFactor ( 0.1 )
ORTSBrakeServiceTimeFactor ( 1.009 )
ORTSAirBrakeMainResVolume ( 28.35ft^3 )
TrainPipeLeakRate ( 0.0833psi/s )
TrainBrakesControllerMaxReleaseRate ( 10psi/s )

MaxForce ( 854316N )
MaxContinuousForce ( 738400N )
ORTSMaxTractiveForceCurves (
0 (
0 0
3.45 0
4.47 0
5.63 0
7.06 0
9.16 0
12.07 0
16.09 0
21.01 0
26.82 0
33.08 0 )
0.125 (
0 106790
3.45 106790
4.47 82415
5.63 65408
7.06 52161
9.16 40202
12.07 30524
16.09 22893
21.01 17535
26.82 13736
33.08 11138 )
0.25 (
0 213579
3.45 213579
4.47 164829
5.63 130816
7.06 104322
9.16 80404
12.07 61048
16.09 45786
21.01 35070
26.82 27472
33.08 22275 )
0.375 (
0 320369
3.45 320369
4.47 247243
5.63 196224
7.06 156483
9.16 120606
12.07 91572
16.09 68679
21.01 52605
26.82 41208
33.08 33412 )
0.50 (
0 427158
3.45 427158
4.47 329657
5.63 261632
7.06 208644
9.16 160808
12.07 122095
16.09 91572
21.01 70140
26.82 54943
33.08 44549 )
0.625 (
0 533948
3.45 533948
4.47 412071
5.63 327040
7.06 260804
9.16 201010
12.07 152619
16.09 114464
21.01 87675
26.82 68679
33.08 55686 )
0.75 (
0 640737
3.45 640737
4.47 494485
5.63 392448
7.06 312965
9.16 241212
12.07 183143
16.09 137357
21.01 105210
26.82 82415
33.08 66823 )
0.875 (
0 747527
3.45 747527
4.47 576899
5.63 457856
7.06 365126
9.16 281414
12.07 213666
16.09 160250
21.01 122745
26.82 96150
33.08 77960 )
1.0 (
0 854316
3.45 854316
4.47 659313
5.63 523264
7.06 417287
9.16 321616
12.07 244190
16.09 183143
21.01 140280
26.82 109886
33.08 89097 )
)

[marklester01]

Update: It's a bit more tricky than I thought( hence The Asking for Help as how to to ), but luckly I found a different file I had DLed that actually has that style in there on a currently made .ENG file in The F/L here. This one'll hopefilly be alot better to get to update( as it seems easier to understand, @ least to me ).

[derekmorton]

Your example is a late GE loco, but is not labeled.

Pointless posting this when you don't specify what it's for.

[marklester01]

I can see what you mean. Yes I plan to use it on a ( ES44AH or sev. ) Late GE Models that uses that, but also can be used on EMD( different of course ) & others as well. I was wondering, where exactly do you apply them. That's why I didn't put any one like GE or such. Because I was using that as "Starting" format off of there, & then am going to move on to EMD's etc.

[derekmorton]

You cannot use this for an EMD, the engine revs are different, as are the traction characteristics.

[marklester01]

Yes, I'm aware. I was wondering where to add all the Curves,etc.( like it shows ) till I found an .ENG File I've got on File that has it, & now I can place correctly. I'll be using a whole different one for it( there's ones provived luckly ). Thanks for pointing it out though.

[marklester01]

You cannot use this for an EMD, the engine revs are different, as are the traction characteristics.

Nope, but here's a SD70Ace Tier3's 4,500hp Example one:

ORTSDieselEngines ( 1
Diesel (
IdleRPM ( 200 )
MaxRPM ( 950 )
StartingRPM ( 150 )
StartingConfirmRPM ( 250 )
ChangeUpRPMps ( 91 )
ChangeDownRPMps ( 57 )
RateOfChangeUpRPMpSS ( 14 )
RateOfChangeDownRPMpSS ( 9 )
MaximalPower ( 3467505W )
IdleExhaust ( 1.2 )
MaxExhaust ( 2.2 )
ExhaustDynamics ( 1.6 )
ExhaustDynamicsDown ( 0.8 )
ExhaustColor ( 20161819 )
ExhaustTransientColor ( 40212324 )
DieselPowerTab (
0 0
315 433252
406 867249
497 1300501
588 1733753
679 2167004
770 2601002
861 3034253
950 3467505
)
DieselConsumptionTab (
0 0
200 11.7
950 688.9
)
ThrottleRPMTab (
0 200
12.5 315
25 406
37.5 497
50 588
62.5 679
75 770
87.5 861
100 950
)
DieselTorqueTab (
0 0
315 105113
406 81553
497 66621
588 56310
679 48764
770 43001
861 38456
950 34853
)
MinOilPressure ( 30psi )
MaxOilPressure ( 90psi )
MaxTemperature ( 120degc )
Cooling ( 3 )
TempTimeConstant ( 720 )
OptTemperature ( 71degc )
IdleTemperature ( 55degc )
)
)
ORTSEmergencyCausesThrottleDown ( 1 )
ORTSWheelSlipCausesThrottleDown ( 1 )
ORTSMainResChargingRate ( 0.4psi/s )
ORTSBrakePipeChargingRate ( 200psi/s )
ORTSEngineBrakeReleaseRate ( 38psi/s )
ORTSEngineBrakeApplicationRate ( 34psi/s )
ORTSBrakePipeTimeFactor ( 0.003 )
ORTSBrakeEmergencyTimeFactor ( 0.1 )
ORTSBrakeServiceTimeFactor ( 1.009 )
ORTSAirBrakeMainResVolume ( 28.35ft^3 )
TrainPipeLeakRate ( 0.0833psi/s )
TrainBrakesControllerMaxReleaseRate ( 10psi/s )

MaxForce ( 890949N )
MaxContinuousForce ( 698402N )
ORTSMaxTractiveForceCurves (
0 (
0 0
3.48 0
4.47 0
5.81 0
7.60 0
10.01 0
12.96 0
16.54 0
21.01 0
25.93 0
31.74 0 )
0.125 (
0 111468
3.48 111468
4.47 86773
5.81 66748
7.60 51043
10.01 38738
12.96 29922
16.54 23452
21.01 18463
25.93 14961
31.74 12222 )
0.25 (
0 222738
3.48 222738
4.47 173391
5.81 133378
7.60 101995
10.01 77407
12.96 59790
16.54 46863
21.01 36892
25.93 29895
31.74 24422 )
0.375 (
0 334205
3.48 334205
4.47 260163
5.81 200126
7.60 153037
10.01 116145
12.96 89712
16.54 70315
21.01 55354
25.93 44856
31.74 36643 )
0.50 (
0 445475
3.48 445475
4.47 346782
5.81 266755
7.60 203989
10.01 154813
12.96 119580
16.54 93725
21.01 73784
25.93 59790
31.74 48843 )
0.625 (
0 556942
3.48 556942
4.47 433554
5.81 333503
7.60 255032
10.01 193551
12.96 149502
16.54 117177
21.01 92246
25.93 74751
31.74 61064 )
0.75 (
0 668212
3.48 668212
4.47 520172
5.81 400132
7.60 305984
10.01 232220
12.96 179370
16.54 140587
21.01 110675
25.93 89685
31.74 73264 )
0.875 (
0 779679
3.48 779679
4.47 606944
5.81 466880
7.60 357026
10.01 270958
12.96 209291
16.54 164039
21.01 129137
25.93 104646
31.74 85486 )
1.0 (
0 890949
3.48 890949
4.47 693563
5.81 533510
7.60 407978
10.01 309626
12.96 239160
16.54 187450
21.01 147567
25.93 119580
31.74 97685 )
)

[derekmorton]

One other problem that I see is that the modern engines have low/high idle.
When the reverser is in neutral you have low idle, when in either direction you have high idle.
High idle is the same revs as notch 1.

Ge revs are 200/450/1050 emd revs are 710-200/350/950 1050-200/400/1000

When you are posting information, it is much better to attach a file rather than copy the contents in line.

[marklester01]

One other problem that I see is that the modern engines have low/high idle.
When the reverser is in neutral you have low idle, when in either direction you have high idle.
High idle is the same revs as notch 1.

Ge revs are 200/450/1050 emd revs are 710-200/350/950 1050-200/400/1000

When you are posting information, it is much better to attach a file rather than copy the contents in line.

Ok,ORTS_STD_ENG_V2, EMD,Std_Eng_SD70ACe_Tier3_4500HP ( Full Writting would take too long why I said example & Copied to which I meant, plus noting that yes EMD's are Different ), & I've forgotten you're a long Physics giver to ORTS! Ooops! These files are mainly done by you* & Bob.