"DoesHornTriggerBell" setting for Shasta engines

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  • huha435
    Member
    • Jul 2019
    • 43

    #16
    Ok , I just tried this with a gp9 and sd 60 . I removed this line and got no bell with the horn , readded the line horn works with the bell , that line can be added to an .eng file It goes between here . DieselEngineIdleRPM( 270 )
    DieselEngineMaxRPM( 835 )
    DieselEngineSpeedOfMaxTractiveEffort( 12mph )
    DieselEngineMaxRPMChangeRate( 25 )

    DoesHornTriggerBell( 1 )

    EmergencyStopMonitor(
    MonitoringDeviceMonitorTimeLimit( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceAlarmTimeLimit( 0 )
    MonitoringDevicePenaltyTimeLimit( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceCriticalLevel( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceResetLevel( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceAppliesFullBrake( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceAppliesEmergencyBrake( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceAppliesCutsPower( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceAppliesShutsDownEngine( 0 )
    MonitoringDeviceResetOnZeroSpeed( 0 )
    )

    ​

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    • Curt C
      1000 Post Veteran

      • Jul 2001
      • 1032
      • UP's dead Santa Barbara Sub
      • General

      #17
      Not quite sure what you're saying. Unfortunately none of the Shasta engines have the 2 sections in the eng file that you noted.

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      • eric
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        • Dec 2002
        • 9583
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        #18
        Originally posted by Curt C

        When you say "attribute", I'm assuming you mean the line "DoesHornTriggerBell". Where do I insert it in the eng file?
        I don't think it matters but yes you should add this parameter and attribute --> DoesHornTriggerBell(1)
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        • Curt C
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          • Jul 2001
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          #19
          Originally posted by eric

          I don't think it matters but yes you should add this parameter and attribute --> DoesHornTriggerBell(1)
          ​
          Thanks. So where do I insert it? Where abouts in the eng file?

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          • slipperman
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            • May 2010
            • 3787
            • Worksop, UK
            • MSOR

            #20
            Hi Curt,
            You need to put DoesHornTriggerBell( 1 ) into the Engine section of the .eng file.

            Cheers,
            Ged

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            • crstagg
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              • Nov 1999
              • 4885
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              #21
              Originally posted by Curt C

              Thanks. So where do I insert it? Where abouts in the eng file?
              ????????????? I told you where to find the answer to that question in post #9.
              Charles

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              • gammaray84
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2018
                • 180

                #22
                Well, i'm all about getting close to the real life as possible. So as i understand, this is intentional. Post no. 3

                Have a good day. I am spending mine on Shasta route 🏔⛰



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                • CSRX
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                  • Oct 2005
                  • 13646
                  • Lincoln, ME
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by gammaray84
                  Well, i'm all about getting close to the real life as possible. So as i understand, this is intentional. Post no. 3

                  Have a good day. I am spending mine on Shasta route 🏔⛰


                  Yeah, I'm either on everyone's ignore list so they don't see my responses at all anymore, or it wasn't the answer they wanted...

                  Original MSTS spoiled everyone with the automatic bell ring with the horn blow...

                  -Shawn K-
                  MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
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                  • charland
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                    • Dec 2006
                    • 3107
                    • Brockville, ON, CA
                    • General

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Curt C

                    Thanks. So where do I insert it? Where abouts in the eng file?
                    DieselEngineIdleRPM( 275 )
                    DieselEngineMaxRPM( 1000 )
                    DieselEngineSpeedOfMaxTractiveEffort( 17.3mph )
                    DieselEngineMaxRPMChangeRate( 40 )

                    DoesHornTriggerBell( 1 )

                    EmergencyStopMonitor(
                    MonitoringDeviceMonitorTimeLimit( 0 )
                    MonitoringDeviceAlarmTimeLimit( 0 )
                    MonitoringDevicePenaltyTimeLimit( 0 )
                    MonitoringDeviceCriticalLevel( 0 )

                    Paul :-)​

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                    • niknak
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                      • Nov 1999
                      • 1254
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                      #25
                      Paul that's the usual eng file setup but I think you'll find that TrainSimulations have gone for a different arrangement for their Shasta loco eng files.
                      Regards,

                      Nick

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                      Cyberpower Desktop with AMD Ryzen 5 CPU /. 16GB RAM /. ATI AMD Radeon RX6700 12GB graphics /. Windows 11 Home 64bit /. RailDriver /. Partridge in a pear tree....​

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                      • Curt C
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                        • Jul 2001
                        • 1032
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by niknak
                        Paul that's the usual eng file setup but I think you'll find that TrainSimulations have gone for a different arrangement for their Shasta loco eng files.
                        Thanks for (hopefully) explaining this so other's get it. This is what I've been saying over and over...

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                        • charland
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                          • Dec 2006
                          • 3107
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                          #27
                          Curt, I think your down to making a copy of your engine file, storing it somewhere. Placing the "DoesHornTriggerBell( 1 )" somewhere in your engine file and taking the unit out for a test drive to see if it still works and to see if the horn triggers the bell. If it doesn't work, change the location of the line, you still have the backup copy of the file if you can't get it to work and have to go back to it.

                          Paul :-)

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                          • Jdark34
                            Senior Member

                            • Feb 2011
                            • 912
                            • alexander city alabama
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                            #28
                            does horn trigger bell is there it should under cabview in your .eng file keep scrolling down and you should see it. but if its not there. it will be something like this. cabview ( es44.cvf ) doeshorntriggerbell ( 0 ) change that zero to 1 Jdark34

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                            • Curt C
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                              • Jul 2001
                              • 1032
                              • UP's dead Santa Barbara Sub
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                              #29
                              Again, as niknak pointed out, TS has re-configured the eng file. There is no DoesHornTriggerBell line. Here is a portion of the new eng file:

                              Engine ( SP_GP60_9771
                              Effects
                              (
                              DieselSpecialEffects
                              (
                              Exhaust1
                              (
                              0 4.774 1.323
                              0 1 0
                              0.15
                              )
                              )
                              )

                              CabView ( GP60.cvf )
                              HeadOut ( 1.85 3.432 5.014 )

                              include ( "..\\TS_COMMON_INC_V3\\Locomotives\\SP_SHASTA\ \EMD _GP60\\EMD_GP60_ENG_Brakes_EF.inc" )

                              include ( "..\\TS_COMMON_INC_V3\\Locomotives\\SP_SHASTA\ \EMD _GP60\\EMD_GP60_Motive_288k_70_17.inc" )

                              include ( "..\\TS_COMMON_INC_V3\\Locomotives\\Generic\\E MD_2 ndGen_Monitors_Alerter.inc" )

                              include ( "..\\TS_COMMON_INC_V3\\Locomotives\\Generic\\8 _Not ch_Throttle_Continuous_DB.inc" )

                              Sound ( "EMD710_cab.sms" )

                              Name ( "ENGINE - SP GP60 9771" )
                              Description (
                              "EMD GP60"
                              )
                              )
                              ​

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                              • Jdark34
                                Senior Member

                                • Feb 2011
                                • 912
                                • alexander city alabama
                                • English
                                • General

                                #30
                                put it doestraintriggerbell under cabview or under headout

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