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  • eric
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    • Dec 2002
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    • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
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    #46
    I'm loving the screenshots for Shasta in the various threads....

    Serious question for those who have both: does it out-do the Feather River?

    Perhaps an unfair comparison since they've been developed at least 10 years apart, but the FR seemed to be the benchmark for quite a while.
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    • CNW 5099
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2006
      • 196
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      #47
      Maybe I missed it but how many activities ship with the route?

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      • Darkhorse427
        Senior Member


        • Mar 2012
        • 284
        • Eugene Or.
        • ORTS

        #48
        Originally posted by CNW 5099
        Maybe I missed it but how many activities ship with the route?
        it comes with 8 activities, but an expansion pack with more activities and rolling stock are already planned as mentioned earlier

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        • derekmorton
          5500 Post Veteran



          • Nov 1999
          • 5699
          • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
          • ORTS

          #49
          >does it out-do the Feather River?

          Yes it does.

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          • niknak
            1000 Post Veteran


            • Nov 1999
            • 1254
            • UK.
            • MSOR

            #50
            For anyone running the route using the MG version of OpenRails - when running activity EURVQ, if a popup appears telling you car 0-10 has derailed, open the .wag file for Boxcar (LD) 241701 and delete the minus sign in the FIRST entry for 'coupling velocity' so that it reads '0.2m/s'. Also, if the track seems clear of snow when it should be covered in the two acts running in snow conditions then make sure that 'activity weather randomization' (options/experimental) is set to '0'. Hope this helps.
            Regards,

            Nick

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            • CSRX
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              • Oct 2005
              • 13646
              • Lincoln, ME
              • English
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              #51
              Originally posted by niknak
              For anyone running the route using the MG version of OpenRails - when running activity EURVQ, if a popup appears telling you car 0-10 has derailed, open the .wag file for Boxcar (LD) 241701 and delete the minus sign in the FIRST entry for 'coupling velocity' so that it reads '0.2m/s'. Also, if the track seems clear of snow when it should be covered in the two acts running in snow conditions then make sure that 'activity weather randomization' (options/experimental) is set to '0'. Hope this helps.
              This seems to be a post 1.5.1 issue, as I had just completed that activity with no pop ups occurring of that nature. I don't think I have experienced that issue with the snow either, but I haven't ran either of those activities just yet.

              I never had the chance to own or run the Feather River Route, but I will say, the Black Butte Sub is on the same path of it. Meaning, it's well worth the money, from the scenery, to the equipment and everything in between. Sean and the crew did an absolute fantastic job with the route.
              -Shawn K-
              MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
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              • CNW 5099
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2006
                • 196
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                #52
                Originally posted by Darkhorse427

                it comes with 8 activities, but an expansion pack with more activities and rolling stock are already planned as mentioned earlier
                Thank you. I will likely pick it up Friday.

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                • niknak
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                  • Nov 1999
                  • 1254
                  • UK.
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                  #53
                  Originally posted by CSRX

                  This seems to be a post 1.5.1 issue, as I had just completed that activity with no pop ups occurring of that nature. I don't think I have experienced that issue with the snow either, but I haven't ran either of those activities just yet.

                  I never had the chance to own or run the Feather River Route, but I will say, the Black Butte Sub is on the same path of it. Meaning, it's well worth the money, from the scenery, to the equipment and everything in between. Sean and the crew did an absolute fantastic job with the route.
                  Shawn, I think the two things I mentioned only occur when using the Monogame version. TS informed me the route was tested in stable version 1.5.1.
                  Regards,

                  Nick

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                  • CSRX
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                    • Oct 2005
                    • 13646
                    • Lincoln, ME
                    • English
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                    #54
                    Originally posted by niknak

                    Shawn, I think the two things I mentioned only occur when using the Monogame version. TS informed me the route was tested in stable version 1.5.1.
                    Ah, that would explain it, I don't use MG at all considering all the issues it has. Tried it, really didn't care for it. I'll stick to 1.5.1. sorry it that upsets anyone. Shrugs.
                    -Shawn K-
                    MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
                    ​

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                    • csantucci
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 1999
                      • 856
                      • Torino, Italy.

                      #55
                      Originally posted by niknak

                      Shawn, I think the two things I mentioned only occur when using the Monogame version. TS informed me the route was tested in stable version 1.5.1.
                      I don't have the Shasta route, but I'm not sure that these issues occur only in ORNYMG, especially the weather one.
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                      • niknak
                        1000 Post Veteran


                        • Nov 1999
                        • 1254
                        • UK.
                        • MSOR

                        #56
                        Hi Carlo,

                        The 1st one I think is MG only as it's been tested using the stable version and doesn't occur. You could well be right regarding the weather one though. It's not a big problem and I'll definitely be sticking with the MG version.
                        Regards,

                        Nick

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                        • csantucci
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 1999
                          • 856
                          • Torino, Italy.

                          #57
                          Hi Nick,
                          thanks for your trust in ORNYMG.
                          Could you please test the first problem also with the actual Unstable release, if it doesn't require too much time?
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                          • jdgremsjr
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                            • Dec 2007
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                            #58
                            Originally posted by niknak
                            Hi Carlo,

                            The 1st one I think is MG only as it's been tested using the stable version and doesn't occur. You could well be right regarding the weather one though. It's not a big problem and I'll definitely be sticking with the MG version.
                            I fully agree, I have ran a few of the Shasta activities on ORNYMG and have not ran into any problems I do have the random weather turned off though. I only use that on my fictional routes.

                            I'm actually having more problems with the RailDriver not calibrating correctly but that may be why it was able to get so cheap.

                            I have only ran into a few problems with ORNYMG and they were taken care of quickly, usually because I didn't know what I was doing. I prefer Carlo's version as it has more bells and whistles and let's you experiment more.
                            Last edited by jdgremsjr; 08-02-2023, 20:08. Reason: Spelling corrections
                            Pacific Northwest Railfan

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                            • niknak
                              1000 Post Veteran


                              • Nov 1999
                              • 1254
                              • UK.
                              • MSOR

                              #59
                              Originally posted by csantucci
                              Hi Nick,
                              thanks for your trust in ORNYMG.
                              Could you please test the first problem also with the actual Unstable release, if it doesn't require too much time?
                              Carlo, I've been running MG version with raildriver for so long now that I've forgotten most of the key commands for the other versions so I can't check by running that version I'm afraid. I've just reinstated the minus sign in the 1st coupling velocity entry in the wag file for boxcar 241701 LD and run the act again in MG version and have so far been unable to replicate the "car 0-10 derailed" problem that I had before. * Could someone else with the Shasta route please confirm that car (LD) 241701 DOES have a minus sign in front of BOTH coupling velocity entries? No other wag file I've seen has this, only on the 2nd entry so there's something strange there but so far I'm unable to connect it fully with ORNYMG.
                              Regards,

                              Nick

                              ( ' boffin0_reprised ' on TikTok )




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                              • pschlik
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                                • Jun 2011
                                • 289
                                • Missouri
                                • MSOR

                                #60
                                Not sure I understand the interest in the velocity value under coupling...Open Rails doesn't use this value at all!

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