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  • qballbandit
    6500 Post Veteran

    • Jan 2006
    • 6522
    • Elgin Il., USA.
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    #1

    Monogame 143: Never ending sunset after dark?

    Hello,
    I noticed in MG143 (as well as 140, which I used for awhile), there is an ever present amber glow right on the horizon after dark, anytime of the night. I love night runs, and used to never see this in earlier MG and/or OR versions. Does anyone know if this is an item Carlo is looking into, or if feedback has already been provided on cause and potential solution? The screenshot was taken at 22:00pm too!

    Thanks very much!
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    Neil

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  • MMSS
    Senior Member

    • Aug 2009
    • 842
    • Somewhere in the swamps of Jersey (NJ)
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    #2
    I got this on version 140.5 (Released April 7, 2023). I found I got it more in northern geological regions than southern. I remember I couldn't get complete darkness and it would be 02:00AM on the Scenic Sub.

    I do get bright sunrises which I posted a screenshot on the "Scenes Without Trains" thread. This I kind of like because you do get sunrises like that when you live a few blocks from the Atlantic Ocean. It is realistic if you are living on the coast but for inland it is a bit too intense.
    - Mark -

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    • rdayt
      1000 Post Veteran

      • Nov 2007
      • 1291
      • SW MO
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      #3
      This is what I get in ORMG 141.2.

      Maybe it's a little farther south.

      Randy


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      • crimsonfloyd
        Senior Member

        • Dec 2009
        • 153
        • Clarion, PA

        #4
        Neil, are you seeing this on NWL 6? I have been running a lot on that route lately and noticed this same issue. I ran a winter activity which starts at 3 am and the sun starts coming up at 4:30.

        Mark

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        • qballbandit
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          • Jan 2006
          • 6522
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          #5
          Yes, I am. I'd need to look at another route now to compare. Interesting, and thanks for replying!
          Neil

          Chicago Railroading Fan

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          • qballbandit
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            • Jan 2006
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            #6
            I bumped the time to 3am, and that almost completely cured it. It looks like I jumped the gun, and this is route specific.
            I do appreciate you setting me straight on this one!
            Neil

            Chicago Railroading Fan

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            • crimsonfloyd
              Senior Member

              • Dec 2009
              • 153
              • Clarion, PA

              #7
              I have logged a lot of hours on that route over the last few years, both creating activities and modding. It`s a big favorite of mine. As far as this odd sunset thing that does seem to be fairly recent in MG. I`ve had night activities in the past where the sun behaved as it should. I am going to run in OR 1.5 when I get a chance and see if that makes a difference.

              Mark

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              • eric
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                #8
                There are parts of Canada and Europe that look like that at 2200...
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                • jdgremsjr
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                  • Dec 2007
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                  #9
                  Have you posted in Elvastower or PMed Csantucci? If there is a known problem he is the guy that would know how to correct it.

                  the link to the monogame forum is http://www.elvastower.com/forums/ind...page__st__1600
                  Last edited by jdgremsjr; 07-17-2023, 16:46.
                  Pacific Northwest Railfan

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                  • qballbandit
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                    • Jan 2006
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                    • Elgin Il., USA.
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                    #10
                    I have not, personally. With limited time, I spend most of it here.
                    Neil

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                    • jdgremsjr
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by qballbandit
                      I have not, personally. With limited time, I spend most of it here.
                      Carlo, or csantucci, which is his username is the author of the OR NewYear MG and if there is a bug or a problem he is the guy to report it to. The current version of the program is 143.2, I'm not sure if you are running that version of just 143.0 but your problem may have already been addressed.

                      I hope, I'm not coming across as a jerk, but that is where I'd go if I had a problem with the program.
                      Last edited by jdgremsjr; 07-18-2023, 10:41.
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                      • qballbandit
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                        • Jan 2006
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                        #12
                        Not at all.
                        I did mention my opening statements:

                        "I noticed in MG143 (as well as 140, which I used for awhile), there is an ever present amber glow right on the horizon after dark, anytime of the night. I love night runs, and used to never see this in earlier MG and/or OR versions. Does anyone know if this is an item Carlo is looking into"
                        Neil

                        Chicago Railroading Fan

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                        • crimsonfloyd
                          Senior Member

                          • Dec 2009
                          • 153
                          • Clarion, PA

                          #13
                          I haven't had a whole lot of time to mess with it, but I did a little experimenting and I am beginning to think this may very well be route specific. I ran an activity which started at 4AM in the latest version of Open Rails 1.5 (testing), with season set winter, clear and no random. The sky was dark but by 4:30 it was starting to lighten up. I then ran same activity, same setting in New Year MG and had a bright blue, predawn sky. So, there is a little bit of a issue with MG and NWL. I then went to Rogers Pass and found an activity which started at 4AM, entered same weather setting. Ran in both MG and 1.5 (testing), and had black, star filled skies.

                          Mark

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                          • qballbandit
                            6500 Post Veteran

                            • Jan 2006
                            • 6522
                            • Elgin Il., USA.
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                            #14
                            Thanks Mark, I agree. Geographic location looks to have more of an impact now. Good to know.
                            Neil

                            Chicago Railroading Fan

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                            • crimsonfloyd
                              Senior Member

                              • Dec 2009
                              • 153
                              • Clarion, PA

                              #15
                              Of course, this will not diminish my love of the route! It`s still my number one go to for activity creating and modding.
                              Last edited by crimsonfloyd; 07-19-2023, 15:19.

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