Klw b&m gp40-2 horns

[dkingsburg]

Downloaded and Installed the 3 B&M GP40-2's. They Work Fine Except the Horn Doesn't Work. When I Activate the Horn the Button Moves but Only the Bell Rings. I Downloaded and Installed the V3 Sound File in the Common Sounds Folder. I Get the Bell and Engine Sound but No Horn!
There is a Separate Folder for Horns included with Each Engine and it has 2 Files Inside KLW_S3L AND x_KLW_S3L.
There was no Info on How or Where to Install Them.
DaveK

[fleegle411]

A case like this is usually the result of a missing horn sound file, but I find it's easier to just replace the horn sound with another rather than go hunting for the one missing. Break out a unicode text editor (Notepad++ is my go-to but straight Notepad still works as of Windows 10) and let's get under the hood.

Start by finding the offending locomotive's .eng file. Open that with Notepad or Notepad++. Hit Ctrl+F and type "Sound." There will be two instances in the file that look like:

Sound ( "Filename.sms" )

These lines tell the simualtor what sound management (SMS) files to use for the locomotive. You can swap the locomotive's entire sound set by changing this line. The two instances are for interior (cab) sounds and external (ext) sounds. If the engine's sounds are contained within its own folder, you'll find these files in the locomotive's SOUND folder. Take note of these file names, and if the name in quotes includes something like this:

Sound ( "../../Common.snd/GP40/Filename.sms" )

Then go back to the Trainset folder and follow the path from the sound line to find the .sms files that the engine uses. Open up the .sms files with Notepad or Notepad++ and take a look around. You'll eventually find an entry with a horn .wav file listed. The simple fix would be to copy and paste the horn you want into the same folder as the .sms files, then change the horn sound file entries in the .sms file to match the ones you just dropped in next to the .sms file. In this case, make sure that only the sound files' names are between the quotes.

"x_horn.wav"

It's also possible to alias sound files, that is done by using the "../../" prefix (some people use double slashes but I've gotten it to work with just the single slashes no problem) and then typing out the folder path for the simulator to follow to find the sound, or sms file, or even some cabview elements. An aliased file path from an SMS file may look something like this (taken directly from a .sms file in my own game):

File ( "../../COMMON.SND/MLW_Horns/x_RS3Lalt.wav" -1 )

This is most useful for congregating sounds into central locations for multiple locomotives to draw from.

Also, make sure you don't get external and internal sounds mixed up. The VAST majority of external sounds have the prefix "x_" while internal (cab) sounds do not.

Welcome to the virtual greasemonkey side of this simulator!

[dkingsburg]

Fleegel411,
Thankyou for the Info. Now Could You Translate it Into English That A Dummy Like me Can Understand.
I've Done Cab Changes and Sound Changes Before and They Always Worked but this One is a Problem.
Everything Else Works Fine But No Horn. When I Press the Space Bar the Horn Button in the Cab Moves but Only the Bell Works.
There is a Horn Folder Included with the Download but I Still Can't get the Horn to Work.
DaveK

[dkingsburg]

B&M GP40-2 Horns

Problem Solved, Deleted the Existing Files for all 3 Units and Started Fresh. Downloaded and Reinstalled all 3 Units in the Trainset Folder. Also Installed the Sound File in the Trainset Folder. Voila The Horn Works.
The Horn File is in the Common Snd. Folder Also but the Horn Still Wouldn't Work. So I Figured maybe it Needed to Go Directly Into the Trainset Folder. That Did the Trick.
DaveK

[jdgremsjr]

Problem Solved, Deleted the Existing Files for all 3 Units and Started Fresh. Downloaded and Reinstalled all 3 Units in the Trainset Folder. Also Installed the Sound File in the Trainset Folder. Voila The Horn Works.
The Horn File is in the Common Snd. Folder Also but the Horn Still Wouldn't Work. So I Figured maybe it Needed to Go Directly Into the Trainset Folder. That Did the Trick.
DaveK

Great job, I'm glad you figured it out. Some of this stuff is basic troubleshooting and common sense. working out the solution on your own is a great way to learn. I hope you continue to learn and enjoy the hobby.

[dkingsburg]

It Would be Nice if They Gave Us Better Info on How and Where to Install these Files!
DaveK

[pwillard]

Well, some of the problem is that there is not just *one way* to do it.

[eric]

It Would be Nice if They Gave Us Better Info on How and Where to Install these Files!
DaveK

I don't disagree that there should be clearer instructions, but you have to remember you're getting this content for free, and you get what you pay for.

If you want a one click installation and support, try some of the great payware that's out there and has installers to make it easy.

If you need more simplicity than that, try run 8 or one of the dovetail games such as TSW or TSC - they are closed systems that won't give you the flexibility, but it's all easy to install and use.

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[dkingsburg]

I Already Have Run8. They have a Couple of Hold Backs Too. One is Not a Large Selection of Routes and A Fairly Small Selection of Rolling Stock.
DaveK