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  • dkingsburg
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    • May 2010
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    #1

    Problem With Sandpatch Train

    I Have Sandpatch Installed and All the Activities Work Except EBQ216.
    When I Start Open Rails The Activity File Says Load Error, Locomotive Missing/Unknown, Consist: Missing/Unknown, Starting at Heading to both Say Missing/Unknown. In My MSTS Sandpatch Folder The Activity is in the Activity Folder, The Path is in the Path Folder, Same With Services and Traffic. Everything is There.
    The Consist and Loose Consists Are in The Consist Folder.
    Is it Me Or Open Rails?
    DaveK
  • Vince
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    #2
    Could you please attach the openrailslog.txt file for the activity that fails?
    It will assist in solving the problem. Thanx

    vince
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    • eric
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      #3
      Attach. Don't paste.
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      • jdgremsjr
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        #4
        Originally posted by dkingsburg
        I Have Sandpatch Installed and All the Activities Work Except EBQ216.
        When I Start Open Rails The Activity File Says Load Error, Locomotive Missing/Unknown, Consist: Missing/Unknown, Starting at Heading to both Say Missing/Unknown. In My MSTS Sandpatch Folder The Activity is in the Activity Folder, The Path is in the Path Folder, Same With Services and Traffic. Everything is There.
        The Consist and Loose Consists Are in The Consist Folder.
        Is it Me Or Open Rails?
        DaveK
        The consists and loose consists maybe in the consist folder but is the rolling stock in the trainset folder. It sounds to me like you may not have all the required rolling stock downloaded.
        Pacific Northwest Railfan

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        • crstagg
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          #5
          Originally posted by dkingsburg
          i have sandpatch installed and all the activities work except ebq216.
          When i start open rails the activity file says load error, locomotive missing/unknown, consist: Missing/unknown, starting at heading to both say missing/unknown. In my msts sandpatch folder the activity is in the activity folder, the path is in the path folder, same with services and traffic. Everything is there.
          The consist and loose consists are in the consist folder.
          Is it me or open rails?
          Davek
          duh!

          And for those asking for the log.txt: He is referring to the menu, therefore there is no log.txt.
          Charles

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          • dkingsburg
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            #6
            I Changed Some of the Rolling Stock Including Engines With TSRE Consist Builder so All of the Rolling Stock is in The Trainset Folder. As Far as I Can Tell There is Nothing Missing.
            DaveK.

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            • crstagg
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              #7
              Originally posted by dkingsburg
              I Changed Some of the Rolling Stock Including Engines With TSRE Consist Builder so All of the Rolling Stock is in The Trainset Folder. As Far as I Can Tell There is Nothing Missing.
              DaveK.
              Two ways to check:
              1. Use ConBuilder to run a test all consists.
              2. Open EBQ216.ACT in text editor. Determine what is player service. Open that player service. Determine what is the Player CON file named. Open the Player CON file. Check Trainset for Player loco. If found verify filename and folder name matches entry on EBQ216.con.
              Last edited by crstagg; 06-04-2023, 12:47.
              Charles

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              • crstagg
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                #8
                Originally posted by dkingsburg
                I Have Sandpatch Installed and All the Activities Work Except EBQ216.
                When I Start Open Rails The Activity File Says Load Error, Locomotive Missing/Unknown, Consist: Missing/Unknown, Starting at Heading to both Say Missing/Unknown. In My MSTS Sandpatch Folder The Activity is in the Activity Folder, The Path is in the Path Folder, Same With Services and Traffic. Everything is There.
                The Consist and Loose Consists Are in The Consist Folder.
                Is it Me Or Open Rails?
                DaveK
                Dave,I cannot say it any simpler: OR is telling you that the Player loco is either missing, from the folder named in the CON, the entire folder is missing, or the filename and/or folder name in the CON file does not match the actual file name and/or folder name in the Trainset folder.

                FYI anything else "Missing/other" other than the Player will be ignored by OR and the act will run w/o that item. So you need to test ALL your CON files with ConBuilder or RR. The alternative is to run every CON in Explore mode and then check the ORTS Log after ewach run.
                Last edited by crstagg; 06-04-2023, 12:50.
                Charles

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                • jdgremsjr
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by dkingsburg
                  I Changed Some of the Rolling Stock Including Engines With TSRE Consist Builder so All of the Rolling Stock is in The Trainset Folder. As Far as I Can Tell There is Nothing Missing.
                  DaveK.
                  Do you have a copy of Route Riter? If you do, you can do both an Activity Check and consist check. Those tests will tell you what is wrong. I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm treating you like you may not know anything, but Route Riter is the first place I check if I have a silly error I can't figure out.
                  Last edited by jdgremsjr; 06-04-2023, 13:04. Reason: Correct spelling and grammar errors and added additional content
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                  • spoony1999
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by dkingsburg
                    I Changed Some of the Rolling Stock Including Engines With TSRE Consist Builder so All of the Rolling Stock is in The Trainset Folder. As Far as I Can Tell There is Nothing Missing.
                    DaveK.
                    Another option is to select “Broken Consists” in TSRE. That was always the easiest thing for me to do

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                    • dkingsburg
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                      #11
                      Downloaded and Installed Sandpatch Since it is One of the Activities in the Program. Still it Didn't Work so I Deleted it.
                      Problem Solved!
                      DaveK.

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                      • crstagg
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by dkingsburg
                        Downloaded and Installed Sandpatch Since it is One of the Activities in the Program. Still it Didn't Work so I Deleted it.
                        Problem Solved!
                        DaveK.
                        That activity Works fine here. Nether ACT or CON tinkered with since install.
                        Charles

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                        • R. Steele
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by dkingsburg
                          Downloaded and Installed Sandpatch Since it is One of the Activities in the Program. Still it Didn't Work so I Deleted it.
                          Problem Solved!
                          DaveK.
                          Not to be a contrarian...but that does not solve the problem, merely removes it from your presence.

                          On second thought I'll add something helpful --- Use slipperman's MSTS Act Manager to check the specific activity, to see if anything is missing. MSTS ActMan was covered in another thread you started.
                          Last edited by R. Steele; 06-04-2023, 16:08.
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                          • dkingsburg
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                            #14
                            Problem Solved, Deleted the Original Activity, Path, Services, Traffic and Consist. Reinstalled Sandpatch to my Desktop. Then Installed New Activity, Path, Services,
                            Traffic and Consist. Modified Consists with TSRE and Now it Works The Way it Should.
                            I Learned Something if the Problem Happens Again.
                            DaveK

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                            • crstagg
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by dkingsburg
                              Problem Solved, Deleted the Original Activity, Path, Services, Traffic and Consist. Reinstalled Sandpatch to my Desktop. Then Installed New Activity, Path, Services,
                              Traffic and Consist. Modified Consists with TSRE and Now it Works The Way it Should.
                              I Learned Something if the Problem Happens Again.
                              DaveK

                              Dave, What is your full path to Sandpatch? Mine is C:\Trains\MSTS\ROUTES\Sandpatch What is yours?
                              Charles

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