Installing Open Rails

[eric]

You can be consistent and do c:\openrails or c:\orts if you don't want it in program files. It will run fine from either.

[dkingsburg]

OK, I Installed it into C:Open Rails. When I Open the Program it Doesn't Show Marias Pass or any of the MSTS Routes.
If I Download or Install A Route from A CD Should I Direct it to MSTS or Open Rails?
DaveK

[pwillard]

Open Rails is far more flexible about *where content lives* than MSTS is because Open Rails understands that you might have content anywhere on your system while MSTS was trying to be self-contained. And the big difference with Open Rails is that NONE of your *content* should ever be moved *into* the folder where you installed the Open Rails application. (trust me, this is a good thing)

You can TELL Open Rails where MSTS content lives *OR* you can create an entirely NEW area where JUST the things you want in Open Rails reside. It's up to you.

Personally, I create a FOLDER called ORTSWORLD and copy/move the content I want available to Open Rails under that folder. That way, if I do Open Rails specific edits to any files... I don't impact MSTS (IE; Physics Modifications)

Traditionally, Open Rails makes no assumptions about where your content lives. You have to TELL it or it knows nothing. That's why Open Rails has "installation profiles" that you configure under "OPTIONS-->CONTENT" and you can create quite a number of content location options there... for example, I also have a "Train Simulations" Path for things from them that can ONLY work in ORTS.

[crstagg]

OK, I Installed it into C:Open Rails. When I Open the Program it Doesn't Show Marias Pass or any of the MSTS Routes.
If I Download or Install A Route from A CD Should I Direct it to MSTS or Open Rails?
DaveK

Dave,
I have told you before and there are numerous threads on the forum asking the same question. OR does NOT search for Train Simulation install content you have to tell it where to look. You do this from the main OR menu > Options button > Content tab > Add button > (enter path and name) > OK button to save.

You have also been told to NEVER install Train Sim content (Routes or Trains) into the Open Rails folder because it will be deleted when Open Rails updates.

[dkingsburg]

Charles,
I Have 3 Separate Files in C: MSTS is in C:MSTS, Open Rails is in C: Open Rails, TSRE is in C:TSRE.
OK It Worked MSTS is now in My Open Rails Program. I Assume that I do This Every Time I Add a Route.
When I Download or Install A Route do I Direct it to MSTS or Open Rails? If I Remember it Goes to MSTS.
Thankyou,
DaveK

[eric]

Put all of your content such as routes and trains into the msts folder. That's where tsre and orts are going to look for it.

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[crstagg]

Put all of your content such as routes and trains into the msts folder. That's where tsre and orts are going to look for it.

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BUT remember there are some routes BUILT for OR only NOT for either ORTS or MSTS. Those should be installed outside of your C:\MSTS folder. The ones from Train Simulations have an installer that create a TrainSimulations folder those should be installed there NOT in C:\MSTS folder, The reason is they conmntain some Global sha[pes that use graphics that is not recognized by MSTS and they are nanmed the same as MSTS Global shapes thus if nistalled in your MSTS folder will over write the MSTS fiiles and render MSTS useless.

[eric]

Yep. In effect the old Mini-route concept.

Fortunately, both open rails and tsre are smart enough to recognize multiple content paths.

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[dkingsburg]

Charles,
I Have Several CD's from Streamlines Including Scenic Sub, ATSF Seligman, BNSF Seligman as well as Several trainset CD's from Streamlines. I've had them for Quite a While so I'm not Sure if they're Compatable with MSTS or OR.
DaveK

[crstagg]

Charles,
I Have Several CD's from Streamlines Including Scenic Sub, ATSF Seligman, BNSF Seligman as well as Several trainset CD's from Streamlines. I've had them for Quite a While so I'm not Sure if they're Compatable with MSTS or OR.
DaveK

I would say if they are from Streamlines they should work with either MSTS or ORTS and probably require tthe MSTS installed Global files.
If the products are from TrainSimulations then they should work best installed in a profile that has not had MSTS installed. See the ORTS manual section 4.4

FYI the Feather River Route from 3dTrains will work on a "non-MSTS" install profile. You just need to add dieselsmoke.ace to the Global\Textures folder.

[eric]

If it's from Streamlines on a CD, you're safe.

If you purchased from TrainSimulations in the past year or three then you might want to pay attention to the installer. It will tell you if you shouldn't mix it with other routes (see step 2):

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