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  • daniellouwrens
    1500 Post Veteran

    • Sep 2005
    • 1730
    • Gandangara Estate, Sutherland Shire. N.S.W, Australia.

    #1

    amtrak572 Act

    Hi

    the amtrak 572 activity for Surfliner Route uploaded recently raises an issue for me as
    I do not understand what to do with the file in the openrails folder.

    I'm hoping this is an opportunity for my getting an undestanding of
    how it works.

    Basically what do I do with the act file in the openrails folder.

    I appreciate any advice or comments.

    Thanks and regards

    Daniel
    Daniel - Sydney (Glad I'm not in Townsville)
    It used to be my favourite place in the world.
  • amtrak115
    Senior Member

    • Oct 2005
    • 289
    • Parker, TX
    • General

    #2
    the act file in the Activities/Openrails folder contains specific modifications to support Openrails. When I started the development of the activity there was and still is no editor to generate some of the OR specific modifications to the activity. Those have to be done by hand. So those specific modifications are saved in the Activities/Openrails folder. If I had modified the activity in the Activity folder anytime and everytime I saved the file the OR mods would go away as the editor would overwrite the file....So for the activity to work correctly I needed to hand create the .ACT file that's in the openrails folder. (A description of this is in the Open Rails Manual you can find online)....therefore the file structure Activities/Openrails needs to remain...and only Open Rails will recognize that subfolder....MSTS wont even see it...hence...this activity is Open Rails Only....

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    • daniellouwrens
      1500 Post Veteran

      • Sep 2005
      • 1730
      • Gandangara Estate, Sutherland Shire. N.S.W, Australia.

      #3
      Hi

      thanks for your reply and support.

      I guess I should have said I am running in OR only.

      When I first ran the act it went well but after I installed the
      "fix" it did not work.

      Either way, I am starting again because I may have missed some
      steps relevent to my reports and will post again when I have a resullt.

      Thanks and regards

      Daniel
      Daniel - Sydney (Glad I'm not in Townsville)
      It used to be my favourite place in the world.

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      • bigmak1313
        Senior Member

        • Jan 2009
        • 132
        • Calgary, Alberta,Canada
        • General

        #4
        Is anyone else having problems of the loose consist's not showing up in the activity?

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        • crstagg
          4500 Post Veteran


          • Nov 1999
          • 4885
          • Huntsville, AL
          • Texan
          • MSOR

          #5
          Originally posted by bigmak1313
          Is anyone else having problems of the loose consist's not showing up in the activity?
          If you really want help then post the log file from running the amtrak 572 activity when the loose consists do not show.
          Charles

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          • daniellouwrens
            1500 Post Veteran

            • Sep 2005
            • 1730
            • Gandangara Estate, Sutherland Shire. N.S.W, Australia.

            #6
            There are no "loose consists" in the Activity file,

            I run RR check activity and use Notepad ++ to replace the missing stock.

            Also, I look for lines that show Name ( 572-1 ) and replace Name with Loose Consist and run
            Conbuilder, but this not alwats work.

            Cheers

            Daniel
            Daniel - Sydney (Glad I'm not in Townsville)
            It used to be my favourite place in the world.

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            • daniellouwrens
              1500 Post Veteran

              • Sep 2005
              • 1730
              • Gandangara Estate, Sutherland Shire. N.S.W, Australia.

              #7
              Originally posted by daniellouwrens
              There are no "loose consists" in the Activity file,

              I run RR check activity and use Notepad ++ to replace the missing stock.

              Also, I look for lines in the Act file that show Name ( 572-1 ) and replace Name with Loose Consist and run
              Conbuilder, but this not alwats work.

              Cheers

              Daniel
              BTW I will be off grid for 5 weeks,

              Just in case there are any questions I'm sure Charles can help.
              Daniel - Sydney (Glad I'm not in Townsville)
              It used to be my favourite place in the world.

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              • amtrak115
                Senior Member

                • Oct 2005
                • 289
                • Parker, TX
                • General

                #8
                I've been hesitant to comment on this thread...mainly because I don't understand it. I built the Activity for Amtrak572 activity... the words ":loose consist" does not appear in the activity file. using TSRE to create an activity requires you to create consist files for any static consist that you place on the route. Then as part of creating the activity file TSRE copies the consist into the activity file itself. Now did I miss up on a few wagon references...maybe....but Static consists appear throughout the route....

                Amtrak115

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                • crstagg
                  4500 Post Veteran


                  • Nov 1999
                  • 4885
                  • Huntsville, AL
                  • Texan
                  • MSOR

                  #9
                  Originally posted by daniellouwrens
                  There are no "loose consists" in the Activity file,

                  ......

                  Cheers

                  Daniel
                  Daniel,

                  There are plenty of Loose Consists. Here is the beginning of one from amtrak572.act file.
                  ActivityObject (
                  ObjectType ( WagonsList )
                  Train_Config (
                  TrainCfg ( "stat-stringStack-15"
                  Name ( "stat-stringStack-15" )
                  Serial ( 1 )
                  MaxVelocity ( 0.00000 0.00100 )
                  NextWagonUID ( 15 )
                  Durability ( 1.00000 )
                  Wagon (
                  WagonData ( StringStackMain_MT CarStrings )
                  UiD ( 14 )


                  Originally posted by amtrak115
                  I've been hesitant to comment on this thread...mainly because I don't understand it. I built the Activity for Amtrak572 activity... the words ":loose consist" does not appear in the activity file. using TSRE to create an activity requires you to create consist files for any static consist that you place on the route. Then as part of creating the activity file TSRE copies the consist into the activity file itself. Now did I miss up on a few wagon references...maybe....but Static consists appear throughout the route....

                  Amtrak115
                  Well there are some that who have been told but cannot seem to remember. ORTS does not require Loose Consists to be named "Loose Consist". I applaud activity creators who take the time to use meaningful names for them. I have not tested to see if MSTS requires them to be named "Loose Consist" but ConBuilder was coded to search for the phrase to display & edit loose consists. The TSRE-CE was not coded that way and does display them and allows editing them. I cannot comprehend why someone would take the time and effort to edit an ACT file to replace the meaningful name and replace them with "Loose Consist" just to be able to display or edit them with ConBuilder. I joined the ConBuilder team over 22 years ago and still use it but I recognize that TSRE is superior to ConBuilder in the area of displaying, editing and creating Consists and Loose Consist.
                  Charles

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                  • amtrak115
                    Senior Member

                    • Oct 2005
                    • 289
                    • Parker, TX
                    • General

                    #10
                    " I have not tested to see if MSTS requires them to be named "Loose Consist" but ConBuilder was coded to search for the phrase to display & edit loose consists. "

                    Charles...I didn't know that about ConBuilder...I've never used that tool. Also I'm pretty sure I was clear in the documentation that this activity is ORTS only and will not work with MSTS. (I don't have a good working copy of MSTS to test things on). There are a number of extensions used that will only work with ORTS...Anyway..... Back to lurking.....


                    Amtrak115

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