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  • conductorchris
    2500 Post Veteran

    • Mar 2010
    • 2905
    • Vermont
    • General

    #16
    Emphasizing what Charles helpfully said, the folder in the trainset folder that looks right but actually doesn't contain the right rolling stock because it is in a subfolder is a classic and potentially widespread problem. Just because the trainset folder looks right, doesn't mean the next level in for each folder is right.
    Christopher

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    • R. Steele
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      • Feb 2013
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      #17
      Besides using ConBuilder to check the stock, try using slipperman's MSTS ActMan....an excellent utility program that checks activities and conists...showing specific errors...you can use this to troubleshoot your problem.

      It is in the File Library >>> msts_actman_v4-0.zip
      Cheers, Gerry
      "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
      It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
      Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
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      • skyballer455
        Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 38

        #18
        Originally posted by R. Steele
        Besides using ConBuilder to check the stock, try using slipperman's MSTS ActMan....an excellent utility program that checks activities and conists...showing specific errors...you can use this to troubleshoot your problem.

        It is in the File Library >>> msts_actman_v4-0.zip
        Thanks for that. However, it's giving me the same BS about missing stock folders WHICH I ALREADY HAVE. I even checked the consists folder to be sure that the con files its referring to are there, and they are.

        Also, for everybody else, the instructions to install the FJ&G v2 route say to double click the apk files in the activities folder to install the consists. When I do that, nothing happens. Any help here?

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        • derekmorton
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          • Nov 1999
          • 5699
          • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
          • ORTS

          #19
          1. Post a log file of any error
          2. You do not appear to have msts installed, get "msts APK extractor v3" from here, by Slipperman as well.

          WHICH I ALREADY HAVE

          As already stated, it is likely not in the correct place.

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          • skyballer455
            Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 38

            #20
            Originally posted by derekmorton
            2. You do not appear to have msts installed, get "msts APK extractor v3" from here, by Slipperman as well.
            I do have MSTS installed. Also that file does not come up when I search Trainsim. Also, how am I supposed to get an error if I can't even start the route in the first place to get the error?

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            • derekmorton
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              • Nov 1999
              • 5699
              • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
              • ORTS

              #21

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              • derekmorton
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                • Nov 1999
                • 5699
                • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
                • ORTS

                #22
                >it's giving me the same BS about missing stock folders WHICH I ALREADY HAVE

                Its that error that we need to see?

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                • skyballer455
                  Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 38

                  #23
                  Originally posted by derekmorton
                  >it's giving me the same BS about missing stock folders WHICH I ALREADY HAVE

                  Its that error that we need to see?
                  And I don't know how to give it to you. That link you posted goes absolutely nowhere. All it leads to is a "No Search Results" page.

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                  • R. Steele
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by skyballer455
                    Thanks for that. However, it's giving me the same BS about missing stock folders WHICH I ALREADY HAVE. I even checked the consists folder to be sure that the con files its referring to are there, and they are.

                    Also, for everybody else, the instructions to install the FJ&G v2 route say to double click the apk files in the activities folder to install the consists. When I do that, nothing happens. Any help here?
                    First, it's not BS, nor is OR "stupid" --- you actually have some sort of problem. You have not posted the OR log which shows the errors that are preventing the activity from running. You certainly appear frustrated, however, this will not help any of us to solve YOUR problem.

                    ...and MSTS APK extractor that Derek mentions is another excellent utility that opens apk files, or allows the user to convert them to zip files and then extract the "ROUTES" and "TRAINS\Consists" Folders. apkex-v3-07.zip in the File Library.

                    You have some excellent tools to diagnose the problem and provide accurate information ( that confirms the OR log ) and people willing to help....time to get to work and solve the problem.
                    Cheers, Gerry
                    "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
                    It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
                    Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
                    Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

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                    • derekmorton
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                      • Nov 1999
                      • 5699
                      • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
                      • ORTS

                      #25
                      >And I don't know how to give it to you

                      I assume that you are getting a message on the screen?
                      I hit <alt> printscreen, then open a program named irfanview, paste the screenshot in irfanview ( editaste ), save the screenshot as a jpg and post it here.

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                      • skyballer455
                        Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 38

                        #26
                        Originally posted by R. Steele
                        First, it's not BS, nor is OR "stupid" --- you actually have some sort of problem. You have not posted the OR log which shows the errors that are preventing the activity from running. You certainly appear frustrated, however, this will not help any of us to solve YOUR problem.

                        ...and MSTS APK extractor that Derek mentions is another excellent utility that opens apk files, or allows the user to convert them to zip files and then extract the "ROUTES" and "TRAINS\Consists" Folders. apkex-v3-07.zip in the File Library.

                        You have some excellent tools to diagnose the problem and provide accurate information ( that confirms the OR log ) and people willing to help....time to get to work and solve the problem.
                        You bet I'm frustrated. It's just that the only way I know of to get an error message (and also have the errors appear in the OR log) is to actually start the activity and get said error message. But as it stands right now OR is locking me out of starting any activity on that route because it says the stock is missing. Is there another way that I don't know about?

                        And searching for that file name worked. Thanks!

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                        • derekmorton
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                          • Nov 1999
                          • 5699
                          • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
                          • ORTS

                          #27
                          Screenshot as above.

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                          • R. Steele
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                            • Feb 2013
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by skyballer455
                            You bet I'm frustrated. It's just that the only way I know of to get an error message (and also have the errors appear in the OR log) is to actually start the activity and get said error message. But as it stands right now OR is locking me out of starting any activity on that route because it says the stock is missing. Is there another way that I don't know about?

                            And searching for that file name worked. Thanks!
                            Two things...get a screenshot of the opening OR screen as Derek suggests.

                            and usually OR will load and give warnings in the log if anything is wrong with AI - traffic or consists...however, if something is missing or wrong with the player consist or player path, then OR will not load...but the opening OR screen will usually show the player consist as missing or some such message in the "locomotive" or "consist" windows...I think that's what Derek wants to see.

                            IS this what you see when you try to start OR ( if not what do you see?) bandicam 2022-12-20 23-03-57-229.jpg
                            Cheers, Gerry
                            "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
                            It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
                            Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
                            Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

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                            • skyballer455
                              Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 38

                              #29
                              Originally posted by derekmorton
                              Screenshot as above.
                              Here is the start screen I see when I try to load up a FJ&G v1 activity. Hope this will help:

                              orstartscreen.JPG

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                              • R. Steele
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                                • Feb 2013
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                                #30
                                Screenshot of my FJ&G 20.con >>> bandicam 2022-12-20 23-29-44-061.jpg

                                Find this consist in your CONSISTS folder...the name of the eng file is first entry without the .eng file suffix and Folder Name is 2nd entry.

                                Now look in your TRAINSET folder for the folder name found in the "EngineData" line --- this may be the problem. IF the proper folder exists in the TRAINSET, look inside to make sure the "eng file" name matches what is found in the "EngineData" line.

                                OR is reading the consist file and then is looking for the folder and eng name in the TRAINSET folder. Something is not matching here.

                                IF the folder named in the EngineData line does not exist in the trainset folder, you've found the problem...now you have to find the eng file...use windows search function in the TRAINSET folder to find that specific eng file ---- mine is named "FJG_20.eng"
                                Cheers, Gerry
                                "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
                                It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
                                Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
                                Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

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