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  • charland
    3000 Post Veteran


    • Dec 2006
    • 3107
    • Brockville, ON, CA
    • General

    #1

    OR Sunrise/Sunset Times

    I posted this to ET this morning but haven't had an answer. A Bing search turned up a few people asking the same question years ago but no real answer was offered. There have been bug reports or suggestions that are over 5 years of and still waiting to be triaged so I though I would try to bring the subject up again and hope to get an answer how is mere mortals can change the time of sunrise and sunset in Open Rails.

    One explanation I found was all of North America's sun timing is based on somewhere in Wisconsin, I can't believe there is anywhere in Wisconsin where the sun starts setting in the middle of the summer at 1845 at night and it's dark an hour later.

    Morning all,

    I've been testing a new route for where I live. The way freight runs in the evening and the sunset in summer time in Open Rails is starting around 1930 and is dark by 2000. In real life, there is still enough daylight here that the streetlight don't come on until 2100 and there is a bit of daylight until 2200 at the latest in the summer.

    In OR, where can I correct this?

    Paul
  • R. Steele
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    • Feb 2013
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    Paul, Does this help? I'm surprised your search didn't turn it up, or maybe it did and it is not the answer to your specific problem.

    https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/showth...ime-adjustment
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    • charland
      3000 Post Veteran


      • Dec 2006
      • 3107
      • Brockville, ON, CA
      • General

      #3
      This morning I did edit the sun file in the ENVFILES and it didn't change anything with or without the MSTS ENFILES option checked in Open Rails.

      It would appear this is hard coded in Open Rails and there is nothing any of us can do about it.

      Paul :-)

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      • geepster775
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        • Sep 2006
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        #4
        Originally posted by charland

        In real life, there is still enough daylight here that the streetlight don't come on until 2100 and there is a bit of daylight until 2200 at the latest in the summer.

        This sounds like you are describing the longest days of June during daylight savings time.

        The trouble is there is only 4 seasons to choose from (MSTS compatibility, you know), not 12 months where the sunlight duration can vary by each month. And who knows if OR incorporates DST. The programmers need to answer that one. And then there is also any lat/lon factors and its effect on timings. Also for the programmers to answer.
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        • charland
          3000 Post Veteran


          • Dec 2006
          • 3107
          • Brockville, ON, CA
          • General

          #5
          No, the average summer evening here on the St Lawrence River stays light until 9 and is dark by 9:45ish. The longest day of the year the sun sets by 9:45 and it's not dark until nearly 10:30. The further north you go the longer the light. When I was at my brother's place north of Edmonton you could read a paper at 10 at night, it wasn't dark out until after 10:30 and that was at the end of August. Yellowknife NWT has days in the summer where the sun just goes down to the horizon for a couple of hours before it starts coming back up.

          Paul

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          • charland
            3000 Post Veteran


            • Dec 2006
            • 3107
            • Brockville, ON, CA
            • General

            #6
            Little demonstration.

            From Rail Canada Volume 4. A couple of photos of one of the first LRCs VIA put in service. Arrived Brockville at 2020 and departs at 2022. The sky is blue but yes, the sun has started to set. You can easily see the train and the houses in the background... and the ground.



            ... and now Open Rails, taken at 2022 from the same spot as the photo above during an Open Rails Summer.



            Can you see the difference between reality and Open Rails?

            Paul

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