Conrail

[niknak]

I omitted mentioning that fact, Nick.....not deliberately, just forgot.

Yeah, that gives ALL consists but for every route and every activity.

What I want to do is to take an existing player consist used in a specific route and swap out the locos for Conrail units.
But without being able to identify the consist/route, it's bloody impossible!

Seagoon I must admit I tend to usually keep my trusty old freeware copy of ConBuilder to hand as well....

[Curt C]

Seagoon I must admit I tend to usually keep my trusty old freeware copy of ConBuilder to hand as well....

Me too. CB has some great tools!

[R. Steele]

I omitted mentioning that fact, Nick.....not deliberately, just forgot.

Yeah, that gives ALL consists but for every route and every activity.

What I want to do is to take an existing player consist used in a specific route and swap out the locos for Conrail units.
But without being able to identify the consist/route, it's bloody impossible!

There's a whole new set of utility tools that --- taken together -- are quite easy to use...I use slipperman's "MSTS ActMan" ( found in library ) to find player consist for specific activity...you could also look in act file --- find player service -- which shows player consist.

I've still got ConBuilder...about all I use it for is to renumber consists...which I cannot seem to be able to do with the TSRE_CE --- although I've read it does renumber consists.

[crstagg]

There's a whole new set of utility tools that --- taken together -- are quite easy to use...I use slipperman's "MSTS ActMan" ( found in library ) to find player consist for specific activity...you could also look in act file --- find player service -- which shows player consist.

I've still got ConBuilder...about all I use it for is to renumber consists...which I cannot seem to be able to do with the TSRE_CE --- although I've read it does renumber consists.

TSRE-CE renumbers as you edit. Example: D1-D2-F3-F4-F5 delete F4 and you get D1-D2-F3-F4. F5 is immediately renumbered to F4.

[R. Steele]

TSRE-CE renumbers as you edit. Example: D1-D2-F3-F4-F5 delete F4 and you get D1-D2-F3-F4. F5 is immediately renumbered to F4.

Ahhh, thanks Charles. However, I was -- not too clearly -- referring to ConBuilders ability to renumber the whole consist in one step -- using the "Units" - "renumber units" option? There is no such option in TSRE-CE, correct?

[seagoon]

Thanks for the suggestions, lads.
Looks like I'll have to dig out ConBuilder and RouteRiter from my trusty old XP laptop....I knew I kept it for a reason!

[crstagg]

Ahhh, thanks Charles. However, I was -- not too clearly -- referring to ConBuilders ability to renumber the whole consist in one step -- using the "Units" - "renumber units" option? There is no such option in TSRE-CE, correct?

Correct. BUT, since ConBuilder did not renumber immediately, you could edit and get the numbers out of sequence. Example: Same D1-D2-F3-F4-F5 and you inserted new freight behind the engines you would get D1-D2-F6-F7-F3-F4-F5 The you would need the renumber tool to get D1-D2-F3-F4-F5-F6-F7

[seagoon]

ConBuilder doesn't seem to recognise those new Conrail units as .eng files.
They don't show up in the list.

[R. Steele]

ConBuilder doesn't seem to recognise those new Conrail units as .eng files.
They don't show up in the list.

I would not expect them to show up in ConBuilder. Charles, knowing considerably more about ConBuilder than I, would understand why...I'd only be guessing... -- more than likely -- what I posted in post#27

[crstagg]

ConBuilder doesn't seem to recognise those new Conrail units as .eng files.
They don't show up in the list.

Probably it will not load them because parameters like Mass, Power etc. which MSTS requires are in Include files. ConBuilder was NEVER modified to read Include lines nor to read Include files. Put all those line back in the ENG file then ConBuilder will read them.

Nether will MSTS -CE or Convoi and probably not Route Riter either.

[seagoon]

Roger that, Charles. Thank you.

[geepster775]

The NS high hood set and the MRL SD45s from the Mullan add-on also came prior to this release with the "wont work with anything but TSRE CE" include files arrangement. It just happens the Conrail release came with no prebuilt consists thus forcing everyone to (finally) bang their shins on discovering what consist applications will or wont work.

[geepster775]

What I want to do is to take an existing player consist used in a specific route and swap out the locos for Conrail units.
But without being able to identify the consist/route, it's bloody impossible!

TSRE has a consist cloning feature that copies an existing consist, lets you change any of the power or railcars, and then you give it a new name, and save it. This does not interfere with any existing consists used in any existing activities. So I am a bit confused by your second sentence. You don't need to know any activity dependencies to clone a consist.

[seagoon]

TSRE has a consist cloning feature that copies an existing consist,....

All good now......I've finally got the gist of it and successfully cloned and saved a consist with the new Conrail power.

Thanks for the help, folks.

[R. Steele]

All good now......I've finally got the gist of it and successfully cloned and saved a consist with the new Conrail power.

Thanks for the help, folks.

One of the keys to using the TSRE-CE combination is the settings.txt file and the log.txt file found in the program's folder. You can change all sorts of setting in the settings.txt -- for example the background color of the consist and shape view windows. And, when you have trouble with the program loading or something else...make sure you check the log.txt --- usually the trouble will be the last entry in the log.

See screenshots >>> bandicam 2022-02-25 17-16-23-853.jpg removing the "#" sign in front of an entry activates it.

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