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  • Sleepy
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 132
    • Las Vegas, NV

    #1

    Restoring saved game troubles

    Could somebody please explain to me why when i restore a saved game there are several keyboard functions that will not work. Mostly the throttle. The escape key and F keys will all still function. This is really starting to get annoying. I attached the log even though I cant find anything related to the keyboard. Thanks
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  • derekmorton
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    • Nov 1999
    • 5699
    • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
    • ORTS

    #2
    Hi Will,

    I have never had that problem.
    Have you changed OR versions before the restore?

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    • gammaray84
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2018
      • 180

      #3
      Please update your OR to new testing version, MONOGAME or 1.4 version.
      You are using 1.3

      Yes, old saves will not work.

      Have A good day !
      Last edited by gammaray84; 12-27-2021, 03:14. Reason: added text

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      • Sleepy
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 132
        • Las Vegas, NV

        #4
        Originally posted by derekmorton
        Hi Will,

        I have never had that problem.
        Have you changed OR versions before the restore?
        No. This is the only version I've ever had. I got it not long before 1.4 came out and i'm still kinda learning it. This happens no matter what loco or consist. After quitting and reloading the save few times it will work normally.
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        • geepster775
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          #5
          Regardless of whether 1.3.1 is new to you, it is still 3 years old (released 12-18-2018) and the obligation is on all users to troubleshoot from the latest edition first, then ask for help about the things that sicken them.
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          • motormaster532
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            • Jan 2011
            • 465
            • New York

            #6
            Originally posted by geepster775
            Regardless of whether 1.3.1 is new to you, it is still 3 years old (released 12-18-2018) and the obligation is on all users to troubleshoot from the latest edition first, then ask for help about the things that sicken them.
            Geepster, I hate to say it,but your advice to him doesn't make sense. Whatever version he is running,his problem is in THAT version,so the solution HAS to be in the version he is using. You cant ask him to troubleshoot from the latest version first if he is not using that one. Sorry if I sound discordant. Brian

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            • motormaster532
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              • Jan 2011
              • 465
              • New York

              #7
              Originally posted by Sleepy
              Could somebody please explain to me why when i restore a saved game there are several keyboard functions that will not work. Mostly the throttle. The escape key and F keys will all still function. This is really starting to get annoying. I attached the log even though I cant find anything related to the keyboard. Thanks
              I see by the log that your problem is in Bob Wirths' Pueblo-La Junta Sub. I think that there are several bugs in that because when I run a custom Activity Eastbound, I start getting "Shape" and "Texture" problems around Lamar followed by a crash. When I was running it, I was also using Version 1.3, I haven't tried it in 1.4 yet,but I think that the Route has problems. Unfortunately,Bob is no longer active so I dont think that you can get a solution from him. If you can overcome the problem by the means that you stated then you are probably just stuck with it. At least you can get it to work! Brian

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              • geepster775
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                #8
                The saves he is seeking a solution for are perishable. The saves he is troubleshooting have already turned to rotten fruit, he just hasn't discovered that yet. The saves he is specifically addressing are likely to never be recoverable, as version progress always eventually turns old saves into unusable junk.

                His only path is to update to 1.4, make NEW SAVES involving the affected activities and routes, and see if the problem replicates. That's a problem worth troubleshooting.

                It is never a good reason to dispatch troubleshooting time for something already so outdated and perishable. Any solution specifically crafted for his 1.3.1 problem arrives already dead. Simply because the OP is new and unaware of that does not invalidate the advice of moving to the latest version as the first step.
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                  #9
                  I hate to say it, but Geepster has a point --- Trying to troubleshoot older versions isn't going to be very successful because so few people are going to have that same version installed, and fewer are going to want to try installing an older version to troubleshoot...
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                  • R. Steele
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by eric
                    I hate to say it, but Geepster has a point --- Trying to troubleshoot older versions isn't going to be very successful because so few people are going to have that same version installed, and fewer are going to want to try installing an older version to troubleshoot...
                    ...and even if something were found, no developer will devote the time to fix it in an old version. IF the problem can be found, and duplicated in the newest stable -- or testing versions -- it would deserve attention.

                    Originally posted by eric
                    I hate to say it, but Geepster has a point...
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                    • conductorchris
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                      • Mar 2010
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                      #11
                      Will, it does sound like a bug. After you update to the latest version, if it is still doing it, it would be a service to file a bug report: http://openrails.org/contribute/reporting-bugs/
                      (Only after you've tried the latest version)
                      Christopher

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                      • motormaster532
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 465
                        • New York

                        #12
                        Originally posted by eric
                        I hate to say it, but Geepster has a point --- Trying to troubleshoot older versions isn't going to be very successful because so few people are going to have that same version installed, and fewer are going to want to try installing an older version to troubleshoot...
                        Yeah Eric, I hear what you say,but I think that the problem that he is having is in the Route itself. As I said in an earlier post, I was having "Shape" and "Texture" problems around Lamar. That was also on an older edition than 1.3. It must be said that I loaded it up with AI and static consists and since I have the same computer that you have-it should not have been a problem. I havn't run the Pueblo-LaJunta Sub since because I couldn't overcome that particular problem. You and Geepster are right that he needs to upgrade. Since I upgraded, the differences are huge. Brian

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                        • motormaster532
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 465
                          • New York

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sleepy
                          Could somebody please explain to me why when i restore a saved game there are several keyboard functions that will not work. Mostly the throttle. The escape key and F keys will all still function. This is really starting to get annoying. I attached the log even though I cant find anything related to the keyboard. Thanks
                          Will: I just thought of this! Make NO GUARANTEE that it will work. When you restore the saved Activity,how long do you wait before activating commands? The reason that I ask this is that sometimes the Route will appear on your screen before it has completely loaded. Check the line at the bottom of your Monitor to see that it completes its process and disappears. Then when the Route materializes,just wait,let it freewheel for about 30 seconds to a minute to fully load,then try it. Once again,this is a shot in the dark. Let us know if it works! Brian

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                          • Sleepy
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 132
                            • Las Vegas, NV

                            #14
                            Wow. It's almost like asking for help with MSTS and the answers are "use open rails". As I said I have have only recently made the jump to OR and I'm still learning everything about it. Once I feel comfortable with it I plan on updating to 1.4. I didn't know if others had this issue and if there was a quick fix for it or workaround, there is no need for major troubleshooting. I have ran this route a couple times without any crashes from shape or texture errors. And i have never noticed if the loading bar was still visible once the route shows up. I'll have to check it out. Thanks Motomaster532.
                            Will
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                            • derekmorton
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                              • Nov 1999
                              • 5699
                              • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
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                              #15
                              >I didn't know if others had this issue and if there was a quick fix for it or workaround

                              The fix for 1.3 is to go to 1.4.

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