Open Rails BNSF Scenic Extra Scenarios Problem

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  • mastere
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    • Feb 2021
    • 25

    #1

    Open Rails BNSF Scenic Extra Scenarios Problem

    On the BNSF Scenic free route for Open Rails, when playing the extra scenarios found on the file library for open rails, whenever you couple or uncouple from a section of the rake, or any part, it just doesn't let you move after. I uncoupled from 3 hoppers on one of the scenarios, then to pull out with the rake to shove into the other siding, but it just doesn't let me move. No handbrake applied, brakes released, throttle on, Shift + / was pressed and still didn't let me move at all. Even coupling to wagons and after still doesn't let you move. Every scenario it's on.
  • geepster775
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    • Sep 2006
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    #2
    There were 2 versions of the add-on activities, one version for each version of the free Scenic starter route. You are not specifying which library file you downloaded, which version of the free route you have. Also. what does the brake information HUD screen show when you cannot move the train. A large, legible screenshot of that might help others help you.
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    • crstagg
      4500 Post Veteran


      • Nov 1999
      • 4885
      • Huntsville, AL
      • Texan
      • MSOR

      #3
      Connect brake hoses?
      Charles

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      • mastere
        Member
        • Feb 2021
        • 25

        #4
        Even disconnection or connecting brake hoses does not fix. I downloaded the v2 version of the BNSF scenic starter activities.

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        • mastere
          Member
          • Feb 2021
          • 25

          #5
          As seen in this photo, I have coupled up, have the throttle on and it does not move. Brakes and all released. Although I did realize it said "Power: Off" so I wonder if that's the culprit as i'm getting no amps at all. Anyone know how to turn the power on? unknown (1).jpg

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          • geepster775
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            • Sep 2006
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            #6
            I see the traction cutoff relay is also open. It needs to be closed to get power. Did you get a TCS emergency brake event anywhere? Is there a checkbox on Disable TCS Scripts?

            TCS is more of a feature for bullet trains.
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            • mastere
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              • Feb 2021
              • 25

              #7
              I was sampling around with those hotkeys to try to find a way to turn the power on. I don't think I got a TCS, no. When starting the scenario the locomotives in F5 have Power: On. So the power is the issue, I just need to find out how to turn it on as I am getting no amps.

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              • csantucci
                Senior Member
                • Nov 1999
                • 856
                • Torino, Italy.

                #8
                You can find all hotkeys in the F1 help window. Search for Control Diesel Player and Control Traction cut-off closing order. Please note that the F4 window says that you are in an out of control state, because you are out of path. So you should investigate where your path should be, or if you have skipped some switching.
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                • mastere
                  Member
                  • Feb 2021
                  • 25

                  #9
                  When I press the traction cut off hotkey(s) it doesn't do anything. But I will check the path thing, thanks.

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                  • adreid
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                    • Jul 2019
                    • 136
                    • Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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                    #10
                    Try Shift - Y to power the locomotive on/off.

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                    • adreid
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                      • Jul 2019
                      • 136
                      • Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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                      #11
                      I converted to ORTS v1.4 a couple of days ago, and I have just encountered the same situation (Out of Control SPAD) with power off, and I had to use Ctrl-M to return to manual mode and restore power.

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                      • mastere
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                        • Feb 2021
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                        #12
                        Thanks so much everyone!

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                        • geepster775
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                          • Sep 2006
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                          #13
                          Until North American PTC is properly coded as a form of Train Control Systems in the sim (it allows freight crews to place PTC into or out of 'restricted mode', thus suspending it, to complete any off-path switching moves) then it makes no sense to have any of the TCS scripts active while running North American freight train activities. TCS is more of a safety feature for highly scripted high speed passenger trains that DO NOT venture off their dispatcher programmed path. Unless I'm running Acela, I keep the checkbox on that disables TCS scripts.
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                          • asteph627
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                            • Aug 2003
                            • 261
                            • Chalmette, Louisiana

                            #14
                            Try pressing the "F9" key which brings up a black & white window titled Train Operations. Click the engine # 0-0 which should be all the way to the left. The second entry says "Toggle Power On & Off". Clicking on this selection should turn Power on and off. This is what I use.

                            AJ

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                            • geepster775
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                              #15
                              The F9 toggle power key physically stops and starts the prime mover. That should be different from a TCS power cutout that should only interrupt the "loading" of the locomotive. The TCS traction cutout acts like an open circuit breaker that prohibits a prime mover that is running/idling from loading or producing any current. If toggling the physical prime mover restores the loading capabilities without addressing the reason the circuit opened in the first place, I would consider that an unrealistic remedy and thus be a bug.
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