Open Rails will not load any routes

[unseen3844]

Uninstalled and deleted msts and open rails multiple times, Tried to install open rails again but no route will load properly.

Deleted Train Simulation folder and Reinstalled TS Routes(Ruel, Mullan)

Installed the Starter Route from the open rails website and still not able to run anything.

before deleting msts folder older routes like green river would load but with the known issue of track having no texture or the cartoon blue sky.

Ruel and Mullan used to work and I have not changed a single folder in either of them nor modified any consists for that matter yet they some how stopped working.

Even uninstalling and reinstalling gets errors.

I do not run open rails often enough to go modifying anything and when I did it was to just check out repaints being worked on.

Interesting observation is even with fresh new open rails installs the old "MSTS" and "Train Simulations" folders still appeared in the main drop down menu. this is even before reinstalling the Routes stated above.

Latest open rails log attached with errors from the Scenic Sub Starter Route.


Scott G

[derekmorton]

Hi Scott,

You talk a lot about errors but give no details?
You say that things don't run but don't tell us what msts or OR?
I am not aware of any known issue with green river?
Uninstalling and reinstalling gives what errors?

The old folders come up because they have been saved in the registry.

The log you posted shows problems with dds files in the wrong place.
It sounds like you have installed one of the Trainsimulations routes to your MSTS installation.

It would be wise to backup what you have, delete EVERYTHING and start again.
Do you use the steam4me website instructions to do your install? https://msts.steam4me.net/tutorials/...ling_msts.html

[geepster775]

"fresh installs" usually require deleting all the contents of

C:\users\{username}\Appdata\roaming\OpenRails from your system drive

If things are still hosed, you can go farther and delete the Open Rails key in the registry under Hkey_Current_User\software. However, this will erase all your pre-set checkbox options and you will have to re-apply them after you reinstall Open Rails. But it is as close to "reinstalling on a new hard drive" as one can get without actually reinstalling their OS.

[unseen3844]

Fresh install meant everything but registry edits. Which would make sense of the msts and ts folder still existing

No ts route are installed to anything anymore as they were deleted.

I have all payware installers backed up and my own repaints backed up. The rest can go.

My openrails installs were based off open rails own website.

The “known” issues… Derek…others have posted the issue along with fixes for on the forum( only mentioning them) to give more “details” that i can think of.

Ill try deleting open rails entry out of the appdata first



update: deleting open rails out of appdata did not work. latest log file attached if that might help

update x2: cleaning out the registry looks to have done the trick, at least for the open rails starter route.

Thanks Geepster for the help.

Going to install Rue and Mullan again and see what happens

[geepster775]

The appdata stuff is usually a housekeeping thing that should be performed occasionally. It is where activity saves are stored, and if it gets too loaded or 'churned', restores have been known to fail or behave squirrely.

Just as a reminder that the TS routes can be grouped together but segregated from older MLT and SLI routes because of the differences in the global folder. The track and road systems use DDS textures instead of ACE so new (TS) and old (SLI, MLT, 3DT) payware routes cannot be mixed.

There have been 2 Scenic Sub starter routes. The old one had the Gevos, the new one has the Mullan C44-9s. The old one had ACE files, the new one had DDS. Your first install should be the new Scenic starter into a 'Trainsimulations' installation name, followed by ORTS Seligman, Ruel and Mullan added to the same installation. The latter 3 are all DDS.

Create a separate installation for all the old SLI MLT etc routes. This installation will need MSTS grade Xtracks based on ACE files. Also add any souped up freeware routes here as well (Clinton, IC, Monon, etc)

Some users over at Elvas have been reporting Win10/Antivirus issues with random ACE filed getting locked by OS and quarantined

[derekmorton]

>update: deleting open rails out of appdata did not work. latest log file attached if that might help

This log shows the same as the first log.
There is a corruption somewhere, and it is still there?

Did you only have the new starter route installed?

Could you run one of the activities in the new starter route please, that will help us narrow it down.

[unseen3844]

Cleaning out appdata and deleting the old openrails out of the registry seems to have worked.

Installed ruel and mullan, both work correctly

Thanks again for the help guys.

Scott G