error with 02707 TIRUPATHI AC DOUBLE DECKAR SPL act

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  • daniellouwrens
    1500 Post Veteran

    • Sep 2005
    • 1730
    • Gandangara Estate, Sutherland Shire. N.S.W, Australia.

    #1

    error with 02707 TIRUPATHI AC DOUBLE DECKAR SPL act

    Hi

    I am trying to run the act 02707 TIRUPATHI AC DOUBLE DECKAR SPL

    02707_tirupathi_ac_double_deckar.zip

    including the patch
    but when I load it into OR MG 102 I get a "load error" as shown in
    the attachedSCR Error.JPG.

    I believe there is no error log as the act did not load

    Please give me advice on how to fix this problem.

    I have run it through CB and RR with the only error being CB
    MSTS 30 Char limit

    Any comments or advice appreciated

    Regards

    Daniel
    Last edited by daniellouwrens; 08-12-2021, 17:03.
    Daniel - Sydney (Glad I'm not in Townsville)
    It used to be my favourite place in the world.
  • R. Steele
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    • Feb 2013
    • 3928
    • known universe
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    #2
    Load error with an activity could also indicate something amiss with the player train. Usually there is some sort of log indication. Check all aspects of the activity.

    "I believe there is no error log"...there is always a log...did you check it? Sorry to be obvious.
    Cheers, Gerry
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    • daniellouwrens
      1500 Post Veteran

      • Sep 2005
      • 1730
      • Gandangara Estate, Sutherland Shire. N.S.W, Australia.

      #3
      Hi Gerry

      the act could not be started, the "Start" box was greyed out, just in case
      I had missed it I deleted all the text files on the Desktop, opened OR and
      selected the route and act but still did not have any Text files, so no log.

      Actman also found only 30 Char issues.

      Regards

      Daniel


      Hopefulyy
      Daniel - Sydney (Glad I'm not in Townsville)
      It used to be my favourite place in the world.

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      • crstagg
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        • Nov 1999
        • 4885
        • Huntsville, AL
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        #4
        Load error in a Menu list for an activity means some file called for in the activity such as a Service file or a Path file is missing (or there is a typo difference between the filename and what is in the Activity file.).

        Gerry, Daniel's graphic is a screen capture of the Menu. The Start button will be grayed out until another item without a <Load Error> is selected. Thus no start = no log file.
        Charles

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        • derekmorton
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          • Nov 1999
          • 5699
          • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
          • ORTS

          #5
          >Actman also found only 30 Char issues.

          Is that Ged's msts_actman?
          If not, you should run it!!

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          • daniellouwrens
            1500 Post Veteran

            • Sep 2005
            • 1730
            • Gandangara Estate, Sutherland Shire. N.S.W, Australia.

            #6
            Originally posted by derekmorton
            >Actman also found only 30 Char issues.

            Is that Ged's msts_actman?
            If not, you should run it!!
            It sure is, I always turn to Ged's programs first.


            Cheers

            Daniel
            Daniel - Sydney (Glad I'm not in Townsville)
            It used to be my favourite place in the world.

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            • slipperman
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              • May 2010
              • 3787
              • Worksop, UK
              • MSOR

              #7
              Hi Daniel,
              Sorry that I'm unable to check MSTS_ActMan as I don't have the route installed (nor the large amount of stock!!).

              Have you applied the patch for the activity? patch_02707_tirupathi_ac_double_deckar.zip

              Cheers,
              Ged

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              • daniellouwrens
                1500 Post Veteran

                • Sep 2005
                • 1730
                • Gandangara Estate, Sutherland Shire. N.S.W, Australia.

                #8
                Hi Ged

                yes I have installed the update.

                And double checked that I had installed it.

                Regards

                Daniel
                Last edited by daniellouwrens; 08-13-2021, 12:25.
                Daniel - Sydney (Glad I'm not in Townsville)
                It used to be my favourite place in the world.

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                • crstagg
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                  #9
                  I repeat:

                  Originally posted by crstagg
                  Load error in a Menu list for an activity means some file called for in the activity such as a Service file or a Path file is missing (or there is a typo difference between the filename and what is in the Activity file.).

                  ............
                  Charles

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                  • R. Steele
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by crstagg
                    Load error in a Menu list for an activity means some file called for in the activity such as a Service file or a Path file is missing (or there is a typo difference between the filename and what is in the Activity file.).
                    True, however, if the player path has errors or is missing...the OR load screen ( is that the right name? ) will show in the "Starting at" and "Heading to" boxes..."missing..yada..yada" ... and if anything is amiss with the player, ( equipment, eng/wag files, consist, etc.) the activity will not load.
                    Usually, although not all the time ( and I don't know why that is ) the log will show something, if the activity loads.

                    Which brings me to >>>
                    Originally posted by crstagg
                    Gerry, Daniel's graphic is a screen capture of the Menu. The Start button will be grayed out until another item without a <Load Error> is selected. Thus no start = no log file.
                    Yes, certainly...missed that, if the activity cannot load, no log.

                    My bet, is that it is something to do with the player...if the activity file checks out okay.

                    That's all the help from me...do not attempt IR simulation, got enough on my plate learning about North American ops...and a little of the Australian and UK routes.
                    Last edited by R. Steele; 08-13-2021, 14:10.
                    Cheers, Gerry
                    "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
                    It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
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                    • crstagg
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                      #11
                      Why would anyone want to download this Activity file, 02707_tirupathi_ac_double_deckar.zip, with a file Size: 1,741,181.
                      Viewing the file listing one finds.
                      TOTALS 1,860,410 41 file(s)
                      Two of the files are
                      08-08-21 856,326 02707 TIRUPATHI AC DOUBLE DECKAR SPL/Screenshot (19).png
                      and
                      08-08-21 856,326 02707 TIRUPATHI AC DOUBLE DECKAR SPL/Screenshot (19) - Copy.png
                      -----------------------
                      Two worthless graphic files wasting bandwidth of 1,612,652 to get 247,758 bytes worth of activity files?????????????????????

                      WHY are these "Activity" creators uploading PNG graphics instead of JPG files????????????????????

                      No wonder Nels is running out of file storage space and bandwidth!
                      Last edited by crstagg; 08-13-2021, 14:53.
                      Charles

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                      • daniellouwrens
                        1500 Post Veteran

                        • Sep 2005
                        • 1730
                        • Gandangara Estate, Sutherland Shire. N.S.W, Australia.

                        #12
                        Originally posted by crstagg
                        I repeat:
                        Hi Charles

                        I saw that but have no idea what to do about it, all consists test OK.

                        I'll have a closer look.

                        Cheers

                        Daniel
                        Daniel - Sydney (Glad I'm not in Townsville)
                        It used to be my favourite place in the world.

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                        • crstagg
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by daniellouwrens
                          Hi Charles

                          I saw that but have no idea what to do about it, all consists test OK.

                          I'll have a closer look.

                          Cheers

                          Daniel
                          You need to open the ACT file in a Text editor, find the name of each service and then open your Windows file explorer to the Route's Service folder and compare the name to the filename of the SRV file(s). If yo find no errors then open each SRV file in the Text Editor and compare the Path name to the Path filename with Windows file explorer open to the Route's Path folder.
                          Charles

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                          • slipperman
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                            • May 2010
                            • 3787
                            • Worksop, UK
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                            #14
                            Hi Daniel,
                            Your screenshot of the <load error> shows loco MLW IR BNDM WDG3A 13424 and consist XX 02707 Tirupathi AC Double Deckar
                            That consist, as supplied with this activity, does NOT use that loco, but WAP7_KJM_37388 in folder "DK KJM WAP7 Pack"!! Have you, maybe swapped it and introduced the error you're getting?

                            Cheers,
                            Ged

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                            • daniellouwrens
                              1500 Post Veteran

                              • Sep 2005
                              • 1730
                              • Gandangara Estate, Sutherland Shire. N.S.W, Australia.

                              #15
                              Originally posted by slipperman
                              Hi Daniel,
                              Your screenshot of the <load error> shows loco MLW IR BNDM WDG3A 13424 and consist XX 02707 Tirupathi AC Double Deckar
                              That consist, as supplied with this activity, does NOT use that loco, but WAP7_KJM_37388 in folder "DK KJM WAP7 Pack"!! Have you, maybe swapped it and introduced the error you're getting?

                              Cheers,
                              Ged
                              Perhaps I have, with nothing better to do I tend to "fiddle" without much recall.

                              I'll check and get back to you.

                              Regards

                              Daniel

                              BTW I often use Notepad ++ to "find and replace" but perhaps not for a Player.

                              Cheers

                              Daniel
                              Daniel - Sydney (Glad I'm not in Townsville)
                              It used to be my favourite place in the world.

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