Which European- Route should I start with

[R. Steele]

Up to now I have exclusively run North American content, now after seeing some amazing European routes, I want to add one. I'd like a route that is finished, not too buggy, comes with well made rolling stock, and some activities...would like both freight and passenger - if possible. Any suggestions where to start? Payware is okay. If there are routes that are made with OR in mind --- that would be great.
Thanks, Gerry

[dcarleton]

Anything from this site here: http://mstshungary.hu/
I would highly recommend alfold-palya-7
Get that, and the five equipment packs listed under Acthu

You'll lose yourself for days-weeks-months, and learn a few words of Hungarian at the same time!

[bobwdude]

I highly recommend the Südostbahn, which can be found at (https://the-train.de/downloads/entry...rial-aufgaben/). It's a large network of trackage in the greater Luzern area in Switzerland, set in the 1980s with the route, rolling stock, and activities included. Something that has always limited my interest in MSTS/OR European content is the lack of safety systems, but as fair as I know this route is set before the ZUB train protection system was installed.

Some of the rolling stock isn't great, but the Re4/4 I and associated coaches are gorgeous. The route scenery is also wonderful, with beautiful distant scenery and plenty of custom assets. The route sounds are great as well - hearing the announcement chimes bring me back to my time studying in Zürich.

Keeping with the Swiss theme, the Bernina Line is also wonderful (https://rhb-trainsim.com). This is one of the RhB's narrow gauge lines through the Alps, crossing from Switzerland into Italy. Once again, it comes with the route, rolling stock, and activities.

Heading east, there are two massive routes from Poland (https://the-train.de/downloads/entry...en-allenstein/) and (https://the-train.de/downloads/entry...karpacie-e-30/). Both of these routes make ample use of the timetable mode and really show the benefits of the feature.

Once I'm back on my main PC, I can post some pictures of the routes.

[ebnertra000]

If you can track down the Deva-Tîrgu Jiu route (set in Transilvania, in central România), it is a beautiful route. But I'm not sure where, if anywhere, it's hosted now, since the host site has moved several times

[bobwdude]

I highly recommend the Südostbahn, which can be found at (https://the-train.de/downloads/entry...rial-aufgaben/).

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[haverfordwest]

Anything from this site here: http://mstshungary.hu/
I would highly recommend alfold-palya-7
Get that, and the five equipment packs listed under Acthu

You'll lose yourself for days-weeks-months, and learn a few words of Hungarian at the same time!

You might once registration for the site is achieved, to access the downloads.

[dforrestc]

In you search is the United Kingdom included in Europe?

[ragtimer]

Any of the Making Tracks UK routes.They are all good.(If you can find them on ebay or Amazon)

[crimsonfloyd]

You can go to https://or.trainsim.pl/ Lots of Polish equipment and routes.

I don`t know about any of the other browsers but Google Chrome has a translate function which makes going to any of the non English speaking sites a lot easier.

Mark

[R. Steele]

In you search is the United Kingdom included in Europe?

Oh my yes, of course, my provincial american popping out. I searched through my old msts stuff and found these three cd's I had purchased from UK TrainSim when I first joined this forum >>> Scottish Central Plus, MidEast Plus, and North Wales Coast, They appear to be complete with stock and activities...going to install them.

[R. Steele]

Any of the Making Tracks UK routes.They are all good.(If you can find them on ebay or Amazon)

Thank you sir, will look for them.

[R. Steele]

You can go to https://or.trainsim.pl/ Lots of Polish equipment and routes.

I don`t know about any of the other browsers but Google Chrome has a translate function which makes going to any of the non English speaking sites a lot easier.

Mark

My Hungarian translations have been getting a work out. Thank goodness for Google Translate. In this new world speaking and understanding one language is certainly an impediment.

[jonpd]

Brexit notwithstanding, I guess we can still call the UK part of Europe My personal favorite is Mid East Plus (once I realized it was set in the UK and not Saudi Arabia ) although I found it somewhat of a bear to install as I use Open Rails and it was designed for MSTS.

Jon

[R. Steele]

Brexit notwithstanding, I guess we can still call the UK part of Europe My personal favorite is Mid East Plus (once I realized it was set in the UK and not Saudi Arabia ) although I found it somewhat of a bear to install as I use Open Rails and it was designed for MSTS.

Jon

I installed it as instructed on my desktop --- deleted the "e" and "n" raw files from the TILES folder ( 1 gig of unnecessary files for OR ) and am going to just transfer the four main folders OR requires ( global, sound, routes, & trains ) to an install on my laptop -- see what happens...

What problems did you encounter?

[R. Steele]

Brexit notwithstanding, I guess we can still call the UK part of Europe My personal favorite is Mid East Plus (once I realized it was set in the UK and not Saudi Arabia ) although I found it somewhat of a bear to install as I use Open Rails and it was designed for MSTS.

Jon

I can see the problem --- all the act, pat, srv, trf, and con files were named "off" to accommodate the "activity loader" they employed. So nothing shows up in OR. It was a simple matter to use https://www.bulkrenameutility.co.uk/ to rename the files to their correct file extension name. Took a couple of minutes. After that, everything appears.

Loaded a couple of different activities and there is surprisingly few warnings in the OR log. Some sound stream numbers issues ( normal in msts )
some

Information: Some NumPositions entries refer to non-exisiting frames, trying to renumber in C:\ORTS\UK_Profiles\trains\trainset\MEP-56001-BR\CABVIEW\class56C.cvf:line 184

which refer to this section in the cvf files:

NumFrames ( 8 4 2 )
			NumPositions ( 5 0 1 6 7 8 )
			NumValues ( 5 0 0.3 0.85 0.9 0.95 )

Change to this and that is corrected:

NumFrames ( 8 4 2 )
			NumPositions ( 8 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 )
			NumValues ( 8 0 0.3 0.85 0.9 0.95 )

also some "invalid crossovers" and "track node invalid links" -- also quite normal in many msts routes...they never seem to present any problems I'm aware of...don't know how to fix them anyway...waaayyy beyond my skill set.

GREAT looking route!!

Kinda stuck on the Hungarian Alfold 7...looking for quite a few missing sounds for the engine files. Haven't yet figured out how to register on the forum.