Adding Automatic Switch Sounds in Openrails

[slipperman]

I couldn't add this to my previous message, but it might help point to where the problem lies (or not!!)

Here's another puzzle! I copied the complete original RUEL .trk file into the OpenRails folder then added the 3 Demosound parameters (without any changes) to that file just before the final close bracket. THAT WORKS AS WELL!!

Cheers,
Ged

[niknak]

Curiouser and curiouser eh? I was going to try putting the sounds in the main file on Mullan but the ttype file is empty and I'm not sure what the first line should be. The ttype in the OR folder just has Track superelevation figures as well as the 2 lines for clear trees from road and rail..

[slipperman]

Hi Nick,
Copy the ttype.dat file from Ruel into Mullan (after backing up the original, just in case!) and see how it goes.

There shouldn't be a ttype.dat file in the OpenRails folder!! I think you meant .trk file?

Cheers,
Ged

[niknak]

Yes I meant trk lol. Could you send the Ruel ttype via pm please? Or reply with the 1st line if that's all there is. The Ruel route is on my desktop pc which is at present in for repair. I only have certain routes inclu Mullan on the laptop I'm using at present.

[slipperman]

Hi Nick,
I don't think I can attach a file to a PM! It doesn't look as if the original file had anything in it. Attached here is my RUEL ttype.dat file.

Cheers,
Ged

[niknak]

Hi Nick,
I don't think I can attach a file to a PM! It doesn't look as if the original file had anything in it. Attached here is my RUEL ttype.dat file.

Cheers,
Ged

It Works!! Many many thanks Ged. Now I have all my routes working with the DemoAutoSounds plus a few hints from you on what to try on any future routes I may download that need it.

Thanks again.

Regards, Nick

[slipperman]

Hi Nick,
That's great news! Glad to be able to help

One outstanding question - are you using the 'full' .trk file in the OpenRails folder, or just the 'include' version containing only the DemoAutoSounds parameters (and, maybe, the tree clearance parameters)?

Cheers,
Ged

[niknak]

Hi Ged,
In the trk file residing in the separate OR folder I have several lines of figures concerning TrackSuperElevation, plus the two tree/road clearance lines and that's all. The main trk file in the route folder contains the full listings, including the 3 lines for the DemoAutoSounds.

Hope that helps.

Regards,

Nick

[derekmorton]

Hi Nick,

The 3 demoautosounds lines should be in the trk file in the OR folder. They are OR commands only.

[baldwin]

It does not matter where the commands are located, if running MSTS it ignores commands it is not coded to read. Open Rails will read its commands from whatever location they are in. The Open Rails route folder is handy to use for locating the signal data files because OR treats them slightly differently there compared to them being in the route root folder.

[slipperman]

Hi Nick,
Based on my previous tests, I found that the DemoAutoSounds parameters only worked for the RUEL route if they were in the route's main .trk file - they did not work if they were only in the OpenRails .trk file. That seems a little odd because, in that location, they work correctly for other routes. Of course, it could be me doing something wrongly, but I don't know what!!

Cheers,
Ged

[niknak]

Hi Ged,

Who knows? lol. I think the answer is probably 42


Thank you also Derek and Mervyn for your contribution.

[geepster775]

Even with an empty ttype.dat, Ruel has always had curve squeal noises. How were they generated?

https://youtu.be/y7o8Vcx0NMs?t=258






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[slipperman]

Hi geepster775,
That's a very good question, sir!
I can't find the .wav files anywhere! There are 50 .ws files in the World folder with all but 5 using sfx_high_wind.sms which calls sfx_high_wind.wav file which is most definitively not any sort of rail squeal!!

However, the main question is, why do the DemoAutoSounds work if the parameters are entered in a full .trk file, whether it's in the route's folder or in the route's OpenRails folder, but not in the 'include' version of the .trk file in the OpenRails folder??

I've even looked for 'hidden' files in the RUEL folder but can't see any!

Have tested with the latest MG version of OR together with the last stable, unstable and testing versions.

Cheers,
Ged

[geepster775]

The answer is likely in the TS Common Sound folder. Flange squeal was part of their comprehensive rolling stock sound retrofit that also brought us the emergency brake stopping sounds, the train air release 'hissing noise', and the randomized flat spot wheel thumping. And this sound set availability, accepted or discarded by various users, is probably somehow adding confusion to the testing circumstances between different reporting individuals... giving false positives.