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  • dkingsburg
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    • May 2010
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    • Cabot, Arkansas
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    #1

    Trainsimulations southern & ns hi-hood sets

    I Have Conbuiolder and TSRE Installed and am using Open Rails.
    When I Installed the Trainsimulations Southern & NS HI-Hood Sets the Engines Don't Even Appear in Conbuilder.
    The Freight Cars Do but when I try to Open the File to Put them in Conbuilder I get the Following Message:
    "ERROR 91 Object Variable or With Block Variable Not Set."
    However In TSRE All of the Engines & Cars do Show Up.
    Is It A Problem with Conbuilder or What?
    Thankyou,
    DaveKfromUP
  • crstagg
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    • Nov 1999
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    #2
    Originally posted by dkingsburg
    I Have Conbuiolder and TSRE Installed and am using Open Rails.
    When I Installed the Trainsimulations Southern & NS HI-Hood Sets the Engines Don't Even Appear in Conbuilder.
    The Freight Cars Do but when I try to Open the File to Put them in Conbuilder I get the Following Message:
    "ERROR 91 Object Variable or With Block Variable Not Set."
    However In TSRE All of the Engines & Cars do Show Up.
    Is It A Problem with Conbuilder or What?
    Thankyou,
    DaveKfromUP
    I do not have the set, but since they are "Made for Open Rails" I suspect that they may utilize the Include file feature. ConBuilder is not compatible with ENG and WAG files that utilize Include lines. Include lines inhibit ConBuilder from finding critical data necessary for placing ENGs/WAGs in consists and for testing them, therefore they are not included in the ENG or WAG lists. Look at the Startup Errors to verify my suspicions.

    And by the way if the above is true, then this set will also NOT be compatible with MSTS.
    Charles

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    • dkingsburg
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      • May 2010
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      #3
      So I just Wasted a Bunch of Money on something I can't use on any Routes that aren't Open Rails!

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      • dcarleton
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        • Nov 2008
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        #4
        No, not a waste. They'll give you an installation of Open Rails for absolutely nothing free. Such a deal!

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        • crstagg
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          #5
          Originally posted by dkingsburg
          So I just Wasted a Bunch of Money on something I can't use on any Routes that aren't Open Rails!
          Did you not read from their purchase page:
          System Requirements
          Open Rails (1.2 or higher)
          356 MB of available hard disk space

          And before you "waste money" again note this from their Home page:
          "ABOUT US

          TrainSimulations is a provider of high-quality North American content for the Open Rails train simulation platform. Open Rails is an ever-expanding open source simulation platform which is free to use."
          Last edited by crstagg; 01-03-2021, 17:21.
          Charles

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          • derekmorton
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            • Nov 1999
            • 5699
            • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
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            #6
            Originally posted by dkingsburg
            So I just Wasted a Bunch of Money on something I can't use on any Routes that aren't Open Rails!
            What did you purchase?

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            • dkingsburg
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              • May 2010
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              #7
              I Have Open Rails Installed I Figured that The Pack would be Compatible with Everything I Had Installed. I've Purchased other Downloads that Will Work with Open Rails as Well as with MSTS.

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              • dkingsburg
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                • May 2010
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                • Cabot, Arkansas
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                #8
                I've Puyrchased other Downloads that work with Both Open Rails & MSTS and Didn't Expect this to be any different!

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                • crstagg
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by dkingsburg
                  I Have Open Rails Installed I Figured that The Pack would be Compatible with Everything I Had Installed. I've Purchased other Downloads that Will Work with Open Rails as Well as with MSTS.
                  Have you opened the ENG files to see if they have Include lines? That would verify that they cannot be used in MSTS.
                  Charles

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                  • dedwa15237
                    2000 Post Veteran

                    • Nov 1999
                    • 2183
                    • Somewhere south...

                    #10
                    Moved to Open Rails.... it’s a OR product.....
                    Dave Edwards

                    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                    • PerryPlatypus
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                      • Jun 2009
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                      #11
                      Yes, the engines in this set use include lines.

                      You can use the engines on any route that functions within Open Rails, NOT just routes that were specifically designed for OR. So you can use them on, for example, the freeware Saluda route, but you HAVE to be running them in Open Rails. They will not function in MSTS.
                      ~Sean Kelly~
                      SP Shasta Route for Open Rails: https://www.trainsimulations.net/sp-shasta​
                      MRL Mullan Pass for Open Rails: https://www.trainsimulations.net/mullanpass

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                      • dkingsburg
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                        • May 2010
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                        #12
                        I Only Use Open Rails for all My Routes. I Had a Problem With Graphics with MSTS and Changed to Open Rails Which I Like a Whole Lot Better.
                        All the Engines and Cars Do Show Up In TSRE Consist Editor but I Don't Use it for Modifying Consists cause Conbuilder is Simpler for Me.
                        Maybe I'll Start Using TSRE More Since Everything Seems to be Going that Way. I do Like the Fact that TSRE Uses a Larger Screen and the Cars and Engines do Look More prototypical. I'm so Used to Using Conbuilder I'm probably Spoiled and Maybe if I Use TSRE More It will Become Simpler for Me Like Conbuilder Was.
                        Thankyou,
                        DaveKfromUP

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                        • crstagg
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                          #13
                          Well it is hard to teach a old dog new tricks.
                          Charles

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                          • jbtower
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                            • Jul 2005
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                            #14
                            Are you saying your old Charlie...lol
                            Kevin Kelleher

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                            • crstagg
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by jbtower
                              Are you saying your old Charlie...lol
                              Well I saw the Summer of '42 twice and only watched the Movie once.
                              Charles

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