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  • stlsf4003
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2016
    • 133
    • Fort Smith, AR

    #1

    funitcab install issues.

    So i've just installed a WP ABB set of F3's that require said cab.

    Anyways I dropped the engine in the trainset folder and then the cab file into the COMMON.CAB folder then fired up OR.

    Only to find the cab was completely invisible.

    So I opened the one of the .eng files to make sure everything matched up with what was in the COMMON.CAB folder, which indeed had everything where it should be.

    So then I went to look at the readme that came with the cab and found this little tidbit....

    "The cab file is pointed to install in the default 3dtrains v3.0c freeware F7
    locomotive directory of the default MSTS installation directory."

    Now I don't know where MSTS installed as default back in the day but due to space issues on my end, I had to install OR onto my D drive.

    Could that be the root of the issue I'm having?
  • rdayt
    1000 Post Veteran

    • Nov 2007
    • 1291
    • SW MO
    • ORTS

    #2
    OR doesn't care where your trains are as long as you point it in the right directory.
    If you have MSTS in the default programs folder, that may keep you from changing the content.
    If you have room on your D:\ drive you can copy the Global, Sound, Trains ans Routes folders and put them in their own folder there.
    If you can attach your OpenRailsLog.txt file it may help. OR places it on your desk top.

    Randy

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    • derekmorton
      5500 Post Veteran



      • Nov 1999
      • 5699
      • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
      • ORTS

      #3
      What zip file are you installing from?

      It is most likely you don't have the freeware f7.

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      • stlsf4003
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2016
        • 133
        • Fort Smith, AR

        #4
        Originally posted by derekmorton
        What zip file are you installing from?

        It is most likely you don't have the freeware f7.
        Here's the zip for the engine
        wp802set.zip

        and here's the one for the cab.
        funitcab.zip

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        • crstagg
          4500 Post Veteran


          • Nov 1999
          • 4885
          • Huntsville, AL
          • Texan
          • MSOR

          #5
          Originally posted by stlsf4003
          .................

          So then I went to look at the readme that came with the cab and found this little tidbit....

          "The cab file is pointed to install in the default 3dtrains v3.0c freeware F7
          locomotive directory of the default MSTS installation directory."
          That means that it was installed to C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\Trains\Trainset\Common.Cab
          Charles

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          • derekmorton
            5500 Post Veteran



            • Nov 1999
            • 5699
            • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
            • ORTS

            #6
            I just did the install and get the same result!!

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            • derekmorton
              5500 Post Veteran



              • Nov 1999
              • 5699
              • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
              • ORTS

              #7
              The error is caused by:-

              The cvf file is written to be in a cabview folder in the "WP_802_Set" folder
              Someone has in their wisdom decided to put the files from the cabview folder into the common.cab/funitcab folder without modification.

              when in the cabview folder entries in the cvf file look like this:-

              CabViewFile ( "FUnit_Front.ace" )

              when in the common.cab/funitcab folder entries look like this:-

              CabViewFile ( "../../common.cab/funitcab/FUnit_Front.ace" )

              Conbuilder does not pick up this error.

              Can you handle the changes?

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              • stlsf4003
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2016
                • 133
                • Fort Smith, AR

                #8
                Originally posted by derekmorton
                The error is caused by:-

                The cvf file is written to be in a cabview folder in the "WP_802_Set" folder
                Someone has in their wisdom decided to put the files from the cabview folder into the common.cab/funitcab folder without modification.

                when in the cabview folder entries in the cvf file look like this:-

                CabViewFile ( "FUnit_Front.ace" )

                when in the common.cab/funitcab folder entries look like this:-

                CabViewFile ( "../../common.cab/funitcab/FUnit_Front.ace" )

                Conbuilder does not pick up this error.

                Can you handle the changes?
                I think? I just need to make a cabview folder in the engine pack and then just drop in the cfv?

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                • derekmorton
                  5500 Post Veteran



                  • Nov 1999
                  • 5699
                  • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
                  • ORTS

                  #9
                  No you have to copy in the whole folder, the cvf is not set up for files in the common.cab.

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                  • crstagg
                    4500 Post Veteran


                    • Nov 1999
                    • 4885
                    • Huntsville, AL
                    • Texan
                    • MSOR

                    #10
                    Originally posted by derekmorton
                    No you have to copy in the whole folder, the cvf is not set up for files in the common.cab.
                    Yes you will. Plus you will need to edit the ENG file and delete the alias path from the CabView line.

                    I am surprised that this download is still available because it contains the 3dTrains Funit version 3 shape files contrary to 3dTrains repaint policy.

                    Or if you own any of the 3dTrains Funits you can edit the CabView line to this and use that cabview:
                    CabView ( "..\\..\\TRAINSET\\3DTrains_FPack\\3DTrains_V4FUni t.cvf" )
                    Note there is no space in Unit. Something weird with inet as it is not in the draft.
                    Last edited by crstagg; 10-23-2020, 07:55.
                    Charles

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                    • crstagg
                      4500 Post Veteran


                      • Nov 1999
                      • 4885
                      • Huntsville, AL
                      • Texan
                      • MSOR

                      #11
                      FYI Bill Hemb made this d/l for use with his own repaints of Funits to place all the cab ACE files in a Trainset Common.cab folder and he included with his repaints a CVF file in a Cabview folder. That CVF file referenced at ACE files with an alias path to the Trainset\common.cab\funitcab folder. However, the 3DTrains_FUnit.CVF file that he included in the funitcab.zip was written w/o the alias paths and is ONLY usable when it is in a Cabview folder that is a subfolder of a engine folder AND has all the referenced ACE file in that same folder.
                      Last edited by crstagg; 10-23-2020, 10:31.
                      Charles

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