OR/Monogame/ReShade Question - Ambient Light at Night

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  • qballbandit
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    • Jan 2006
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    • Elgin Il., USA.
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    #1

    OR/Monogame/ReShade Question - Ambient Light at Night

    Hello,
    For those in the know, what if any settings in the "SCOShade.cfg" file would help darken ambient lighting at night? Not talking about the sky, but surrounding light that keep objects looking too bright at night.

    Thanks very much!
    Neil

    Chicago Railroading Fan
  • rdayt
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    • Nov 2007
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    #2
    SCOShade.cfg is just a set of configurations that Scott put together to get people started.
    If you go into the ReShade home page there are effects you can turn on/off and most have sliders that adjust the amount of the effect.
    When you check the boxes or adjust the sliders you can see the results immediately in OR. To cancel the effect just uncheck the box.
    There really isn't anything you can "break" by experimenting.
    One of the things I did and you will probably want to do is change the overlay key. This turns the ReShade menu on/off. It's under Settings.
    I changed mine to Ctrl+Delete. It doesn't do anything else. It's not a Windows key combo. Other key combos did things to the sim or computer.
    Play around and have fun. Let us know what you found.

    Randy

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    • R. Steele
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      #3
      Hey Neil, here's the most recent ReShade "preset" I'm using --- attached, modified from an earlier one. Just point reshade towards this txt file. As Randy said, you can adjust and experiment with this. ORTS_Shade_1.zip

      You can change the path in the ReShade ini file ( found in the OR monogame folder ) to point to it.
      Code:
      [DX11_BUFFER_DETECTION]
      DepthBufferClearingNumber=0
      DepthBufferRetrievalMode=0
      UseAspectRatioHeuristics=1
      
      [GENERAL]
      ClockFormat=0
      CurrentPresetPath=C:\ORTS\OR_ReShade_Parts\ORTS_Shade_1.txt
      EffectSearchPaths=.\reshade-shaders\Shaders,.\reshade-shaders\Shaders\PD80,.\reshade-shaders\Shaders\Depth3D,.\reshade-shaders\Shaders\OtisFX,.\reshade-shaders\Shaders\Pirate,.\reshade-shaders\Shaders\qUINT,.\reshade-shaders\Shaders\Daodan,.\reshade-shaders\Shaders\Fubax
      FPSPosition=1...and so forth

      Originally posted by rdayt
      I changed mine to Ctrl+Delete. It doesn't do anything else. It's not a Windows key combo. Other key combos did things to the sim or computer.
      Play around and have fun. Let us know what you found. Randy
      Ctrl+Delete --- Thanks, Randy I was looking around for key combo, that'll do nicely!

      I'm hoping folks using MG and ReShade will start posting their shader files...which can be txt files...A collection of different files for OR would be nice to have, Have you looked into "Luts"? I'm trying to learn how to make them, at first read it appears like an interesting way to make changes to OR visual appearance.
      Cheers, Gerry
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      • qballbandit
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        #4
        Thanks very much guys, gives me something to work on over the weekend.
        Very much appreciated!

        To my question though - have either of you experimented with settings for ambient night effect; as in darker world (not sky)?
        Neil

        Chicago Railroading Fan

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        • tie
          Senior Member

          • May 2010
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          • Saskatchewan, CA

          #5
          Wow! I was starting to wonder how to do that. Thanks.
          Rory

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          • R. Steele
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            #6
            Originally posted by qballbandit
            Thanks very much guys, gives me something to work on over the weekend.
            Very much appreciated!

            To my question though - have either of you experimented with settings for ambient night effect; as in darker world (not sky)?
            I did a search of the ReShade forum >>> https://reshade.me/forum/ (you might have to create a login ) using just the word "ambient" and found there is an ambient light shader.
            Cheers, Gerry
            "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
            It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
            Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
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            • qballbandit
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              #7
              Hello,
              With the latest reshade installed, I came across a setting "prod80_03_filmictonemap" that accomplishes exactly what I was after - to darken the ambient lighting at night. It does not seem to lessen lighting, but the world is certainly not as illuminated as it has been. Ran an activity last night, and what a difference.
              Neil

              Chicago Railroading Fan

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              • R. Steele
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                #8
                Originally posted by qballbandit
                Hello,
                With the latest reshade installed, I came across a setting "prod80_03_filmictonemap" that accomplishes exactly what I was after - to darken the ambient lighting at night. It does not seem to lessen lighting, but the world is certainly not as illuminated as it has been. Ran an activity last night, and what a difference.
                Your statement about the "the world is certainly not as illuminated as it has been" in OR is interesting. All the threads I've read here and at ET concerning night lighting in OR have been about the night being too dark to see. People are asking for the night lighting to be lighter. What gives?
                Cheers, Gerry
                "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
                It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
                Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
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                • rdayt
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                  • Nov 2007
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                  #9
                  I guess we can call it a work around for those of us that like our nights dark.
                  What would be cool would be a lantern we could light when we're in the external views.
                  Thanks Neil, looks awesome.

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                  • qballbandit
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                    #10
                    Hi Gerry,
                    Maybe it's relative to where people do their railroading. In very urban environments, maybe things should be a bit lighter. I do most of my railroading in rural areas which on a no-moon or overcast evening, should be very dark. Playing with cloud cover, fog, and the right cloud files helps some, but this setting I mentioned above really knocks down the ambient lighting in a great way.
                    Neil

                    Chicago Railroading Fan

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                    • R. Steele
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by qballbandit
                      Hi Gerry,
                      Maybe it's relative to where people do their railroading. In very urban environments, maybe things should be a bit lighter. I do most of my railroading in rural areas which on a no-moon or overcast evening, should be very dark. Playing with cloud cover, fog, and the right cloud files helps some, but this setting I mentioned above really knocks down the ambient lighting in a great way.
                      Thank you for the clarification, Neil. Would it be an imposition to ask for before and after screenshots --- no big, if not... I'll try that shader out. I'm hoping that in the future OR will improve upon the environmental lighting scheme...and the weather environments in general ( maybe a coder that's interested in that will turn up ). I'd also like to see "route specific option" loading to be supported.
                      Cheers, Gerry
                      "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
                      It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
                      Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
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                      • qballbandit
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                        #12
                        Hi Gerry, I'll try. My night shots when I post them are rather.....meh.
                        I also messed with the "levels" shader, and that really takes darkness to a whole new place. The default was a little too dark, so changed the value to "5", and I really am liking what I see.....or better still, DON'T see
                        Neil

                        Chicago Railroading Fan

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                        • R. Steele
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by qballbandit
                          Hi Gerry, I'll try. My night shots when I post them are rather.....meh....)
                          I can understand that, shadow and highlight details and other subtleties that are noticeable in OR do not translate well into screenshot posts.
                          Cheers, Gerry
                          "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
                          It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
                          Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
                          Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

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