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  • R. Steele
    3500 Post Veteran

    • Feb 2013
    • 3928
    • known universe
    • ORTS

    #16
    Just a reminder, when OR cannot find a coupler named in the wagon include file in the OpenRails folder, that piece of equipment will not appear in the sim.

    From Don's OR log:
    Warning: 'C:\MSTS-1\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\SLI_UP_FREIGHT\openrails \..\..\Common.inc\Fleet\Standard_Freight_Coupler' not found in C:\MSTS-1\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\SLI_UP_FREIGHT\openrails \89ft_AUTO_UP_20916_MT.wag:line 4

    Warning: Expected end of file in C:\MSTS-1\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\SLI_UP_FREIGHT\openrails \89ft_AUTO_UP_20916_MT.wag:line 5

    Warning: System.IO.FileLoadException: C:\MSTS-1\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\SLI_UP_FREIGHT\89ft_AUTO _UP_20916_MT.wag ---> System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not find file 'C:\MSTS-1\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\Common.inc\Fleet\Standar d_Freight_Coupler'.
    File name: 'C:\MSTS-1\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\Common.inc\Fleet\Standar d_Freight_Coupler'
    at System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)

    ...and in "Standard" above, ignore the space, artifact of forum posting --- does not appear in actual log.
    Cheers, Gerry
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    • Don6218
      1500 Post Veteran
      • Jun 2009
      • 1834
      • Oshawa ON

      #17
      Originally posted by R. Steele
      Just a reminder, when OR cannot find a coupler named in the wagon include file in the OpenRails folder, that piece of equipment will not appear in the sim.

      From Don's OR log:


      ...and in "Standard" above, ignore the space, artifact of forum posting --- does not appear in actual log.
      OK. so, how do I correct all the "Errors" due to this "Coupler" thing? Do I just remove the space? Why were these OR Files not examined beforehand? I have had to remove some due to issues. Seems a useless add on to me.

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      • Don6218
        1500 Post Veteran
        • Jun 2009
        • 1834
        • Oshawa ON

        #18
        Originally posted by crstagg
        Don,

        I notice a difference in an ACT created for MSTS and the ACT from this Activity pack

        EK - Amtrak 11.act
        ActivityObject (
        ObjectType ( WagonsList )
        Train_Config (
        TrainCfg ( "Surf Static Coast Siding"
        Name ( "Surf Static Coast Siding" )
        Serial ( 1 )


        MSTS ACT
        ActivityObject (
        ObjectType ( WagonsList )
        Train_Config (
        TrainCfg ( ""
        Name ( "Loose consist." )
        Serial ( 27 )


        I have bolded the line in question. Try changing the EK - Amtrak 11.act line(s) like TrainCfg ( "Surf Static Coast Siding" to
        TrainCfg ( ""
        and see if the loose consist display.
        Why, in this example, is the "Serial ( 1 ) changed to Serial ( 27 ) ????

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        • crstagg
          4500 Post Veteran


          • Nov 1999
          • 4885
          • Huntsville, AL
          • Texan
          • MSOR

          #19
          Originally posted by Don6218
          Why, in this example, is the "Serial ( 1 ) changed to Serial ( 27 ) ????
          The Serial Line from one Loose Consist to the next may or may not be the same number. I just included it in my capture for no reason. Has nothing to do with the discussion.

          The Numbers weren't "changed". They as just different. These are examples taken from activities from different routes and created by different Activity Editors. The Name Lines are why ConBuilder cannot edit the Loose Consists for Keating's activities. The difference in the TrainCfg lines may be why ORTS does not display the Loose Consists.

          By the way, Convoi cannot edit them either.
          Charles

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          • R. Steele
            3500 Post Veteran

            • Feb 2013
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            • ORTS

            #20
            Originally posted by Don6218
            OK. so, how do I correct all the "Errors" due to this "Coupler" thing? Do I just remove the space? Why were these OR Files not examined beforehand? I have had to remove some due to issues. Seems a useless add on to me.
            Don, I have no clue as to how those "OR files" were placed in your Trainset folder...you are the only person who could have installed them, there are no such files included in the keating activity package. Forget about the space, not important.

            Second point...they are not a useless add-on, the OpenRails folder and the include files contained therein add OR physics to MSTS rolling stock, your frustration is very apparent...however, it is not helping you solve your problem.

            If you have not learned how to use the OpenRails folders or do not wish to use them, simply delete those folders from your Trainset.

            Apologies for interrupting your thread conversation with Charles, I'll leave you to figure out your problem, good luck, Cheers, Gerry
            Cheers, Gerry
            "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
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            • derekmorton
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              • Nov 1999
              • 5699
              • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
              • ORTS

              #21
              This error does not look correct:-

              Warning: 'C:\MSTS-1\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\SLI_UP_FREIGHT\openrails \..\..\Common.inc\Fleet\Standard_Freight_Coupler' not found in C:\MSTS-1\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\SLI_UP_FREIGHT\openrails \89ft_AUTO_UP_20916_MT.wag:line 4


              Standard_Freight_Coupler does not have .inc on the end?

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              • crstagg
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                • Nov 1999
                • 4885
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                • Texan
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                #22
                Originally posted by Don6218
                Hello all, I am just now running the Amtrak #11 Activity, I am not seeing any of what is in the Activity List as "Static xxxx" Rolling stock. I opened the route and activity with Con-Builder and all there is listed is the Active Trains, no Loose Consists as there are in most Activities. I went through the list of Required Rolling Stock and I have most of it, I normally change out missing ones for ones I have.
                Don,

                I got Surfliner 2.3 and installed it and this ACT Pack. Found that the EK-Amtrak 14 activity started at LAUPT so i figured that there would be static consists at that location so I got all the missing rolling stock replaced. Started the activity. Went to the 2 view and pressed F6 to turn on Train labels. Found 2 Static consists on the other tracks at LAUPT.
                Charles

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                • Don6218
                  1500 Post Veteran
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1834
                  • Oshawa ON

                  #23
                  That is good. I am just getting back to it today. I am going to continue running to LAUPT with Amtrak 11 and see if anything shows up in OR. What version of OR are you using please? I have installed the latest Experimental version, or should I go back to the Stable version?

                  Thank You.

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                  • crstagg
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                    • Nov 1999
                    • 4885
                    • Huntsville, AL
                    • Texan
                    • MSOR

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Don6218
                    That is good. I am just getting back to it today. I am going to continue running to LAUPT with Amtrak 11 and see if anything shows up in OR. What version of OR are you using please? I have installed the latest Experimental version, or should I go back to the Stable version?

                    Thank You.
                    I always run experimental. Never look back!
                    Charles

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                    • Don6218
                      1500 Post Veteran
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 1834
                      • Oshawa ON

                      #25
                      After a few adjustments, I am now seeing the "Loose Consists" at LAPUT on Amtrak #14. I will see what happens further down the line.

                      Thank you Charles for your time.

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                      • Don6218
                        1500 Post Veteran
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 1834
                        • Oshawa ON

                        #26
                        Open Rails Surfliner 2.3 Activity Pack Vol. 2 Amtrak #14 Act

                        I am now seeing the "Loose Consists" at LAPUT on Amtrak #14. All the Loose passenger consists are in place at the start of the sim. The AI Trains are operating correctly as I leave the station.
                        Trouble is, there are NO Loose Consists on ANY of the Sidings along the way to Van Nuys, where according to the activity file, there should be cars located at a couple of small sidings, and then at the Gemco Yard there is nothing on any track even though the activity calls for 5 or 6 tracks to be occupied. This can be seen in the pic and the screenshot of the Dispatch window.

                        Surfliner Gemco Empty Yard.jpg
                        Surfliner Gemco Empty Yard Dispatcher View.jpg
                        I checked with Con Builder today and a bunch show up in the loose consist area! But only for EK_Amtrak #14 activity!
                        All rolling stock is accounted for, no reason they should not show up, but they are not. BTW, this is a whole new install of Surflner 2.3.
                        Here is the current log:
                        OpenRailsLog.zip

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                        • crstagg
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                          • Nov 1999
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                          #27
                          Don,

                          Don't use ConBuilder to look for these Loose Consists. Use TSRE-CE. You are probably missing the rolling stock for these consists.
                          Here is what I get running EK_Amtrak #14 activity.
                          Gemco.JPG
                          Charles

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                          • crstagg
                            4500 Post Veteran


                            • Nov 1999
                            • 4885
                            • Huntsville, AL
                            • Texan
                            • MSOR

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Don6218
                            I am now seeing the "Loose Consists" at LAPUT on Amtrak #14. All the Loose passenger consists are in place at the start of the sim. The AI Trains are operating correctly as I leave the station.
                            Trouble is, there are NO Loose Consists on ANY of the Sidings along the way to Van Nuys, where according to the activity file, there should be cars located at a couple of small sidings, and then at the Gemco Yard there is nothing on any track even though the activity calls for 5 or 6 tracks to be occupied. This can be seen in the pic and the screenshot of the Dispatch window.

                            [ATTACH=CONFIG]80143[/ATTACH]
                            [ATTACH=CONFIG]80144[/ATTACH]
                            I checked with Con Builder today and a bunch show up in the loose consist area! But only for EK_Amtrak #14 activity!
                            All rolling stock is accounted for, no reason they should not show up, but they are not. BTW, this is a whole new install of Surflner 2.3.
                            Here is the current log:
                            [ATTACH]80145[/ATTACH]
                            What exactly are you referring to? Where in ConBuilder are you seeing the EK_Amtrak #14 activity Loose Consists?
                            ConBuilder's Activity testing tool only lists the Player and Traffic consist. It does not display/list Loose Consist.
                            The only place ConBuilder displays/lists Loose Consist is in its Loose Consist editing tool? And only if they are listed in the Activity with their TrainCfg and Name line entered as:
                            TrainCfg ( ""
                            Name ( "Loose Consist" )
                            Or have you edited the Activity file? If you did then the Gemco loose consists should have displayed in ConBuilder with the items missing since the sim does not display them.
                            Charles

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                            • Don6218
                              1500 Post Veteran
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 1834
                              • Oshawa ON

                              #29
                              WOW! Totally different.
                              In reference to your later post, I changed the Activity to read them, I used the suggested changes that were posted earlier,
                              TrainCfg ( ""
                              Name ( "Loose Consist" )
                              I used those and Con Builder shows them as being there, no red units!
                              I am just passing Montalvo Metrolink, and all the way no "Loose Consists" since the auto loaders. Again, AI's are working fine.
                              Current Log File:
                              OpenRailsLog (2).zip


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                              • crstagg
                                4500 Post Veteran


                                • Nov 1999
                                • 4885
                                • Huntsville, AL
                                • Texan
                                • MSOR

                                #30
                                My suggestion is this:
                                Save your Edited EK_Amtrak #14 activity in a temp folder.
                                Reopen the Activity Pack zip and extract the EK_Amtrak #14.act file.
                                Open TSRE-CE to the route
                                From the TSRE menu under View make sure Consists Units is checked.
                                on the Show line in the Consists list Click on the down arrow
                                Choose "Activity Consists"
                                On the Route line below Choose Surfliner 2
                                On the Activity line choose EK_Amtrak #14
                                Sequentially select each consist and look at Consist's Units list for missing item(s). Missing shows as "[Broken]"
                                (Note: You have to mouse click each consist name to select. Using down on keyboard does not select even though highlight moves to the next consist.)
                                Charles

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