Strange Sound!?

**Vince** · 06-15-2020, 10:25

No, never.
and
None needed here but try a better audio processor.

regards,

**rdayt** · 06-15-2020, 10:35

I remember this from many years ago.
Go through the global sound folder and find the offending sound using your media player. Once you've located it delete it.
Than you can find a sound you prefer, while searching the sound folder, and copy and rename it to the offending sound.
Like I said this way many years ago and I have no idea what the name of that sound was but it sux, and I remember it as more of a metallic whoink-whoink.
I've downloaded Erick C's navs_env.zip from the FL here but haven't had a chance to try it. That's another option.
Try it. Let us know how it sounds.

Randy

**ebnertra000** · 06-15-2020, 12:44

I get a sound that might match that description when the front end of a train moves far enough away from the camera. Most engine sound sets aren't designed to be heard from that range, and tend to act up

**meeshu** · 06-15-2020, 22:33

Comments noted, thanks.

I am running more test consists. So far, it seems this "wup" "wup" sound doesn't appear when running small/short trains with one or two locomotives and up to around 20+ cars.

On further testing, this "wup" "wup" sound also appears after using the external rear view ("3" key) followed by the "8" key to lock the view. The sound occurs soon after trains have (practically) disappeared from view.

Also, apart from this sound which stops after a while, it also stops when (rear end) locomotive engine sounds become noticeable and when these locomotives approach and pass the view point. This applies to really long consists with locomotives at each end (only), and when the train is roughly halfway past the view point.

I've uninstalled and re-installed audio card drivers, but to no avail. The "wup" "wup" sounds still occur.

I was/am thinking there might be some "limitation" to the audio card that I'm presently using? Trying alternative audio cards for testing is not really an option at this time due to various reasons. So, for the moment I'm stuck with the present audio card.

I thought this funny sound might be some sort of global sound also, but I have yet to find it within the Sound directory under MSTS. I'll take a look at file "navs_env.zip".

Interesting comment Travis!

So the issue might be due to limitations/difficulties of Open Rails dealing with locomotive engine sounds that are some distance away from the viewpoint? That seems to make (some) sense, as the funny sounds always occur when the locomotives are some distance away from the viewpoint and the engine sounds can no longer be heard. Then the funny sounds disappear after a while or when other locomotive engine sounds appear and the funny sounds disappear again.

**csantucci** · 06-16-2020, 01:09

Can you check if you have the same issue with the Stable release?

**meeshu** · 06-16-2020, 03:14

Yes. The issue also appears under 1.3.1 (stable), as mentioned in my first post.

**ebnertra000** · 06-16-2020, 06:05

This has been around for a long time, if it's what I think it is. About the only time I notice it is when I move way ahead of a train to test crossing signals or when I let a full long train pass

**csantucci** · 06-17-2020, 03:52

I have tried with following test case, with OR NewYear MG 65.1: I started activity BNSF Westbound Double Stack of BNSF Scenic Route. When the train reaches 5 mph I switch to camera 3 and practically immediately to camera 8. Then I waited that the train goes away. I tested three times but I didn't hear wups; I got only a single burp at the moment I switched from camera 3 to camera 8.

**ebnertra000** · 06-17-2020, 04:09

Carlo,

I suspect newer sounds may be designed for hearing at those distances. The problem typically shows up on pre-OR sound systems that were designed with MSTS's sound characteristics in mind

**meeshu** · 06-17-2020, 21:12

The following short consist demonstrates the "wup" "wup" sound on my system. But in this case, the sound is not as prominent as the sound is for much longer trains with more locomotives.

It uses the locomotive from here.

The locomotive engine sounds are from here. Using "..\\..\\COMMON.SND\\MLW_710G3CII\\710G3CII_BNSFen g.sms" specifically.

The tanker cars are from here.

The consist is here -

3_sd70ace_33_short_tanks.zip

**csantucci** · 06-18-2020, 03:29

I don't get wups. I must say. however, that the .sms file you mention requres also sound files from folder common.snd\milw_electrics, and I don't have such folder and it is not included in your pack.

**meeshu** · 06-18-2020, 03:40

I also don't have the "Milw_electrics" folder nor its associated wav files. The sound pack was created and uploaded by MLW. They didn't seem to include the Milw Electrics files/folders. Furthermore, I've been unable to locate these folders/files elsewhere.

If you don't hear the strange "wup" sound then that suggests there is a problem with my audio card/system in handling locomotive engine sounds(!?) That is unfortunate as I'm not in a position to "upgrade" or test audio cards at this time.

**baldwin** · 06-18-2020, 04:54

The Milwaukee electrics sounds were made by someone else and although free, cannot be included in the download of another soundset without the authors permission. They can be referenced in a different set though. https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/tslib....ight&fid=19729 is the Milwaukee soundset.

**meeshu** · 06-21-2020, 22:03

Thanks for the link!

But in my case, I've edited out all references to those MILW_Electrics sounds within the associated sms file. Those MILW_Electric files are not "vital"; they are just supplementary sounds.