Difference between OR and OR_NewYear_MG?

[frliss]

Hi all,

First let me preface my question by saying that OR is the best thing to come along in train simulation in a long time. I haven't used MSTS for almost two years now. That said, let me ask my question.

I cannot see any difference between OR (unstable version ) and OR_NewYear_MG running in the 64 bit mode. Everything appears to be exactly the same including the frame rate.

What am I missing?

Fred

[UP_4848_Thunder]

OR_MG manages memory well an less stress on the GPU is all I can say an haven't blown another graphics card.

[csantucci]

OR_NewYear_MG runs at true 64 bits, and therefore can extend beyond 4GB of RAM if needed. OR (unstable version) can't.

[NorthernWarrior]

I just had a little play with MG and it might just be perception, but the sound seems clearer - don't get that occasional "drainpipe" effect that onboard sound chips sometimes give when they struggle a bit.

[muskokaandtahoe]

Monogame is mostly an internal technical change because Microsoft killed a library OR was using. Because MG is alive it opens the door to OR migrating to a newer version of DirectX. If that occurs there should be some significant visual improvements, maybe some performance improvements too.

As that is all occurring there are the occasional new features slipped in when no one is looking.

AFAIK the MG version IS now the unstable version.

[sankara]

Has the monogame version been released?

[rdayt]

Has the monogame version been released?

http://www.interazioni-educative.it/Downloads/index.php

[sankara]

Are there any disadvantages of the monogame version as compared to the stable version present in the website?

[dforrestc]

Unless I have missed something, I am still waiting for one of these to include the recently developed RailDriver integration.

[scottb613]

Are there any disadvantages of the monogame version as compared to the stable version present in the website?

Hi Folks,

From my experience - the latest "unstable" versions include a myriad of improvements and new features not available in the "stable" version - I get better framerates with Monogame - the 64 bit allows you to use all your computer memory - and - it is compatible with ReShade which can improve your graphics...

Regards,
Scott

[csantucci]

To make things clear (or maybe more confused...) there are following OR releases:
- the (official) Stable one, which is now about one year old (max 4 GB memory addressable)
- the (official) Testing one, which includes all approved changes (max 4 GB memory addressable)
- the (official) Unstable one, which includes various features that haven't yet been approved, and among them Monogame (max 4 GB memlry addressable)
- the (unofficial) OR NewYear MG, whic includes all features present in the Unstable one (and therefore also Monogame), and which runs at true 64 bit, plus other features not present in the Unstable one; addresses as much GB memory as available
- the (unofficial) Ultimate one, which as far as I know includes all features present in OR NewYear MG, plus various code enhancements that I don't know; addresses as much GB memory as available.

The features present in OR NewYear MG that aren't present in the Unstable release are reported in the ET forum, and at the moment are:
- addition of track sounds in the sound debug window (by dennisat)
- F5 HUD scrolling (by mbm_or)
- checkbox in General Options tab to enable or disable watchdog
- increase of remote horn sound volume level
- when car is selected through the F9 window, the car's brake line in the extended brake HUD is highlighted in yellow (by mbm_or)
- improved distance management in roadcar camera
- signal script parser (by perpetualKid): reduces CPU time needed for signal management
- true 64-bit management, allowing to use more than 4 GB of memory, if available, in Win64 systems (mainly by perpetualKid)
- general options checkbox for optional run at 32 bit on Win64 (to avoid slight train shaking bug)
- Train Driving Info window, recalled with Ctrl-F5, by mbm_OR
- extended Raildriver setup, as present in OR Ultimate (by perpetualKid)
- bug fix for sound problems when viewer not created in initial conditions
- analog clocks showing game time, by jonas
- operation as webserver, enabling HUD and Train Driving info on web clients like PCs, tablets or smartphones
- support for AWS train control system
- panto commands and animations now swapped when in rear cab
- support for Italian train control systems SCMT and TCS
- improvements in Activity Evaluation of station stops, by mbm_OR.

[dforrestc]

Thanks. It appears therefore that in need "Ultimate" which will give me RailDriver support plus the other enhance features. Where do I find this?

[dedwa15237]

I downloaded the MG version, as when I tried running it, I get a popup after I prepared to run an Activity, and it states "Open Rails Activity Runner stopped running" what does it mean or did I leave anything off? I retested with the stable OR 4328, it works like a breeze... I am running an IBM Intellistation Z PRO Win 7 64 bit Dual 3.4 GB Xeon (2 cores each processor, 4 cores total) and 32GB of RAM.. Thanks for your help...

[csantucci]

Hi Dave,
what MG version did you download? Unstable, OR NewYear MG or Ultimate?

I forgot to write that the web server feature is by mbm_OR, cjakeman and BillC

[dedwa15237]

Here is what I have and screenies....Once I hit Start....

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Then this popup appears...


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Been scratching my head for a bit so I have decided to request help..

Thanks

Hi Dave,
what MG version did you download? Unstable, OR NewYear MG or Ultimate?

I forgot to write that the web server feature is by mbm_OR, cjakeman and BillC