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  • dedwa15237
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    • Nov 1999
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    #1

    Eds Trains SW1500 set question for OR

    Hello all!

    I have a question I need assistance with Eds Trains SW1500 set, (purchased the CR/NS set) as I test ran it on MSTS and it works successfully on cabviews. I can see the front, sides (conductor and engineer) and the back views with correct buttons/keys. Now, when I am running Open Rails, I can only see the front, sides (conductor and engineer) and cannot see the back view. Tried to find which key, but none avail. Does anyone have the same issue? I have spoken to Eds Trains for assistance, and they have stated it wont see the back view on OR for "some reason" Reason i liked the back view, since you can switch industries with long hood forward.

    ScreenShot52 (2).jpgScreenShot57 (3).jpg

    Heres the pics that works on MSTS, but will not on OR.. Anyone can assist me please?

    Thanks!
    Dave Edwards

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  • geepster775
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    #2
    Why is your horn floating in the air in photo 1? Errors in position?
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    • dedwa15237
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      #3
      That photo I had was from Eds Trains, so it was fixed later. The photos are not Open Rails, but only MSTS. I am still trying to find the culprit on Open Rails to find the correct key or function to view like the photos stated when running long hood short.

      Originally posted by geepster775
      Why is your horn floating in the air in photo 1? Errors in position?
      Dave Edwards

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      • lateagain
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        • Jul 2004
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        #4
        No help from Ed's Trains on this?
        Geoff
        Dorset - near The Swanage Railway.
        UK

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        • EldoradoRailroad
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          • May 2010
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          #5
          It might be helpful to post the .cvf file. As well as the .eng file.

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          • R. Steele
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            #6
            If I am understanding this post correctly the problem is with the views in the cab?
            They are sold with only SD40Right and SD40Left views --- Engineers window and Conductor's Chair...no rear looking view exists.
            I have the set-- hadn't used it in a while...did a fresh install from the downloaded zip file and no rear views are contained in the CabView file.
            (I suppose they could have been added in and update that I missed?)

            Did you fit it with a rear looking view and it works in MSTS but not OR?

            ...or Did I completely misread the problem?
            Last edited by R. Steele; 07-17-2019, 13:56.
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            • dedwa15237
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              #7
              Gerry, you have PM..

              Thanks


              Originally posted by R. Steele
              If I am understanding this post correctly the problem is with the views in the cab?
              They are sold with only SD40Right and SD40Left views --- Engineers window and Conductor's Chair...no rear looking view exists.
              I have the set-- hadn't used it in a while...did a fresh install from the downloaded zip file and no rear views are contained in the CabView file.
              (I suppose they could have been added in and update that I missed?)

              Did you fit it with a rear looking view and it works in MSTS but not OR?

              ...or Did I completely misread the problem?
              Dave Edwards

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              • dedwa15237
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                #8
                Its all there, the problem is Open Rails in which the rearview buttons is located or which keys for it..


                Originally posted by EldoradoRailroad
                It might be helpful to post the .cvf file. As well as the .eng file.
                Dave Edwards

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                • dedwa15237
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by lateagain
                  No help from Ed's Trains on this?
                  Re-read once more what I have stated....
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                  • geepster775
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                    #10
                    I'm confused. I've never seen a CVF file that had more than 3 primary cab views available, under the 1 key, by scrolling left or right with the arrows.

                    With old SLI, it was conductor forward, engineer forward and engineer side window.

                    With new Trainsimulations cabs, it is conductor forward, engineer forward and engineer rearward.

                    With Diesels West, it usually was conductor forward, engineer forward, and center front window forward.

                    I guess that is why people are requesting to see the CVF, to see if it's different.

                    Beyond the use of the 1 view, there is HOME for engineer forward head outside right window with 360 turn, and END for conductor rearward head outside left cab side window with 360 turn. There are no other buttons to add additional in-cab views.

                    If you have an end-cab switcher, I understand the value of the angles you show in your screens, but in most cases, you have to sacrifice one of your 3 previous viewpoints to make that happen.

                    How many cab views does it have in MSTS? What are the buttons you are using to access or scroll through them all?
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                    • lateagain
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                      • Jul 2004
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                      • Wareham, Dorset, U.K.

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dedwa15237
                      Re-read once more what I have stated....
                      ....so you paid the money and that's the support you got? Tells me a lot actually. BTW it says the custom cabs are courtesy of Maple Leaf Tracks. Did you contact them?
                      Geoff
                      Dorset - near The Swanage Railway.
                      UK

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                      • dedwa15237
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                        #12
                        Again.... Let me copy and paste what I have stated.....

                        "I have spoken to Eds Trains for assistance, and they have stated it wont see the back view on OR for "some reason" "

                        So, thats a "yes..." I bought this set many years ago when OR was in beta stages...


                        Originally posted by lateagain
                        ....so you paid the money and that's the support you got? Tells me a lot actually. BTW it says the custom cabs are courtesy of Maple Leaf Tracks. Did you contact them?
                        Dave Edwards

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                        • dedwa15237
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by geepster775
                          I'm confused. I've never seen a CVF file that had more than 3 primary cab views available, under the 1 key, by scrolling left or right with the arrows.

                          With old SLI, it was conductor forward, engineer forward and engineer side window.

                          With new Trainsimulations cabs, it is conductor forward, engineer forward and engineer rearward.

                          With Diesels West, it usually was conductor forward, engineer forward, and center front window forward.

                          I guess that is why people are requesting to see the CVF, to see if it's different.

                          Beyond the use of the 1 view, there is HOME for engineer forward head outside right window with 360 turn, and END for conductor rearward head outside left cab side window with 360 turn. There are no other buttons to add additional in-cab views.

                          If you have an end-cab switcher, I understand the value of the angles you show in your screens, but in most cases, you have to sacrifice one of your 3 previous viewpoints to make that happen.

                          How many cab views does it have in MSTS? What are the buttons you are using to access or scroll through them all?
                          Using arrow buttons on MSTS in a 360.. Theres 4 views.. One is the engineer view looking long hood forward, one is the conductor, one is the engineer thru window and lastly the reverse window like the screenshot shown.. With OR, same as listed but not the reverse window.
                          Dave Edwards

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                          • TorontoMainlineTrains
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                            #14
                            Question he was asking is "HOW TO SWITCH CABS TO REVERSE CAB IN OPEN RAILS?" the answer is Ctrl + E
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                            • EldoradoRailroad
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                              • May 2010
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                              #15
                              Since I have been with the Open Rails team for some years now, this "bug" if it is a bug would be of interest to the team. However, without a test case to determine if it is a "bug" it will never be fixed. That is why I asked about seeing the .cvf/.eng file for this engine.

                              Personally I have only ever seen three views for camera #1. If this is something new, as in, a capability in MSTS that was unknown, the Open Rails team would like to know about it.

                              If you want the bug at least looked at, if not fixed, some concrete evidence will be needed, in terms of relevant files. Things cannot be fixed in a vacuum.

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