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  • Bharatiya_Rail
    New Member
    • Jan 2019
    • 17
    • India

    #1

    Forced red at station stop

    Hello everyone, As Openrail introduced "Forced red at station stop" features, this enable the signal to be clear just before 2 min of departure time, but this features produce a problem to me (actually in Indian Railway System); if a particular station having less than 2 min halt time (e.g 1 min or 30 sec) then the train get clear signal instantly as it stop on that station.
    Now my question is how to overcome this problem or is there any way to change this 2 minutes time?
  • csantucci
    Senior Member
    • Nov 1999
    • 856
    • Torino, Italy.

    #2
    Hi,
    no, the 2 minutes are hardcoded in the OR code. If you want to have a red anyhow you can try inserting an absolute waiting point.
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    • Bharatiya_Rail
      New Member
      • Jan 2019
      • 17
      • India

      #3
      Originally posted by csantucci
      Hi,
      no, the 2 minutes are hardcoded in the OR code. If you want to have a red anyhow you can try inserting an absolute waiting point.
      exactly first I thought the waiting point method, but this method is not successfully working for AI.

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      • RailWorkshop
        Member
        • Nov 2018
        • 35

        #4
        Hi
        If you are using the signals by Mohsin Patel then the main problem is with the scripts of signals as they were designed purely for MSTS.
        Mohsin did not updated the scripts with many new parameters introduced in OR like Signal Glow, Speed Signals etc as far as I can remember when I was a active OR player back in 2017.
        I suggest you to contact and post this in Elvas Tower forums where all developers of Open Rails are active and they are going to short out the problem.

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        • Bharatiya_Rail
          New Member
          • Jan 2019
          • 17
          • India

          #5
          Originally posted by RailWorkshop
          Hi
          If you are using the signals by Mohsin Patel then the main problem is with the scripts of signals as they were designed purely for MSTS.
          Mohsin did not updated the scripts with many new parameters introduced in OR like Signal Glow, Speed Signals etc as far as I can remember when I was a active OR player back in 2017.
          I suggest you to contact and post this in Elvas Tower forums where all developers of Open Rails are active and they are going to short out the problem.
          Hello RailWorkshop,
          This signal package totally made by our team. This signal package made on the basis of RRI system with new OR parameters and tested by 2 Indian routes and as result it's working perfectly. But my problem is different, I want to remove the Overtaking loop signals from loop lines.

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          • mikeebb
            Senior Member

            • May 2010
            • 989
            • Pacific Time
            • ORTS

            #6
            Another approach might be to not use a signal at the station, but instead (if it's possible) set a speed restriction on departure. The Delay In Block rule (DIB sign at the station exit) indicates a 40mph speed restriction after a station stop until the next signal is observed. Don't recall for sure, but I think the ancient FPM Surfliner route had some restrictions like that, but not sure how they were done early in MSTS days.

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            • csantucci
              Senior Member
              • Nov 1999
              • 856
              • Torino, Italy.

              #7
              Originally posted by Bharatiya_Rail
              exactly first I thought the waiting point method, but this method is not successfully working for AI.
              That should work for an AI train too.
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              • Bharatiya_Rail
                New Member
                • Jan 2019
                • 17
                • India

                #8
                Originally posted by mikeebb
                Another approach might be to not use a signal at the station, but instead (if it's possible) set a speed restriction on departure. The Delay In Block rule (DIB sign at the station exit) indicates a 40mph speed restriction after a station stop until the next signal is observed. Don't recall for sure, but I think the ancient FPM Surfliner route had some restrictions like that, but not sure how they were done early in MSTS days.
                According to Indian railway signaling system if any train stops at any station's loop line for boarding when boarding in process the signal turns red
                So we thought that When boarding time completed and train will get signal to proceed.

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                • RailWorkshop
                  Member
                  • Nov 2018
                  • 35

                  #9
                  For you information, real life signals are controlled by human and the game signal are based on logic in scripts.
                  It is sometime not feasible to decode actual signal in simulator.
                  I am also struggling with RailWorks Indian Railways Signal System as my default aspect are always clear!

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                  • Bharatiya_Rail
                    New Member
                    • Jan 2019
                    • 17
                    • India

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RailWorkshop
                    For you information, real life signals are controlled by human and the game signal are based on logic in scripts.
                    It is sometime not feasible to decode actual signal in simulator.
                    I am also struggling with RailWorks Indian Railways Signal System as my default aspect are always clear!
                    First of all my post is not related to RW, it's about OR, and MSTS/OR doesn't support absolute block signaling or any other expect auto signal. But we just used some alternative way to showing different type of signals 99% same as real world. And as an Indian I suggest you that leave RW and come in MSTS/OR, we will teach you how to make logics and scripts same as real life

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                    • RailWorkshop
                      Member
                      • Nov 2018
                      • 35

                      #11
                      Huh
                      MSTS is outdated.

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                      • ebnertra000
                        1500 Post Veteran


                        • Jun 2013
                        • 1778
                        • Minnesota

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RailWorkshop
                        Huh
                        MSTS is outdated.
                        True, but OR isn't and it can use most MSTS content

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                        • baldwin
                          6000 Post Veteran


                          • Nov 1999
                          • 6358
                          • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
                          • ORTS

                          #13
                          Well, I am unimpressed by any of the Railworks offerings.
                          Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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