Pacific Surfliner tracks issue

[Damascus]

Tracks look like a sandstorm is covering them. They look fine in MSTS.

[lineman]

Check your OR log, I believe you'll see missing ace files.

[jbtower]

Let me know if you figure this out. I have the same issues and they just started on several routes, Cajon, Tehachapi II and PSL

[burgerbern]

I had that just recently and found it was when i moved a newer route in with some older ones and it overwrote the original Tsection.dat file in the global directory, i swapped TSections around for different versions and in the end found one they were all happy with.

[PXSE]

I believe the FPM Surfliner route installer forces the installation of an outdated Tsection (version 26?) with no option to abort that part of the process.

[slipperman]

Hi PSXE,

I believe the FPM Surfliner route installer forces the installation of an outdated Tsection (version 26?) with no option to abort that part of the process.

The easiest way to overcome that problem is to (1) save the outdated version, in case you need it, (2) download the version you want from here or the UKTS library and (3) install the new one.

Unless the FPM Surfliner route uses a specialised version, it should work just as well with any later version.

Cheers,
Ged

[PXSE]

I am aware, I don't have the problem, but just pointing out that particular installer just blindly jams an outdated copy onto your system without performing any version testing, potentially replacing a newer version you already had installed and gumming up the other routes being run in the same installation, when people might not realize what has happened behind the scenes. Easier path is making a copy of the existing tsection before running the installer

[mikeebb]

I am aware, I don't have the problem, but just pointing out that particular installer just blindly jams an outdated copy onto your system without performing any version testing, potentially replacing a newer version you already had installed and gumming up the other routes being run in the same installation, when people might not realize what has happened behind the scenes. Easier path is making a copy of the existing tsection before running the installer

That's very likely true. Making a backup copy of your current or preferred tsection is a good idea before installing any route that uses an installer that keeps you from seeing what it's doing. FPM was bad in many respects - its treatment of tsection.dat is only one of them.

[Damascus]

Not sure what any of you mean as I don't know what Tsections are or any of the dtails. Surfliner was installed years before Open Rails.

EDIT: Just tried this route in MSTS. It took 8 minutes to load terrain buffers (usually takes 10 seconds) and crashed with error saying that several .ace files were missing. I will uninstall and reinstall from the CD.

[crstagg]

Not sure what any of you mean as I don't know what Tsections are or any of the dtails. Surfliner was installed years before Open Rails.

EDIT: Just tried this route in MSTS. It took 8 minutes to load terrain buffers (usually takes 10 seconds) and crashed with error saying that several .ace files were missing. I will uninstall and reinstall from the CD.

"Not sure what any of you mean as I don't know what Tsections are" Tsection.dat is a file that contains reference data for ALL track sections. As a new track type is created or as new track pieces are created this file is updated. It is located in the Global sub-folder of root folder of an MSTS installation. It is in readable text and if opened you will notice at the beginning a "Build" number. The most current build is maintained in the file library. Older builds are deleted when a new one is uploaded to the library.

Some Route developers wrote their installation programs to install the current Tsection file without considering that later routes would require newer Tsection files. What they should have done was to tell the use to Install Tsection.dat Build ## or later.

Question have you recently installed the route BNSF Seligman Route for Open Rails from TrainSimulations? If you did, did you install in into the same install that you are finding problems with? I ask this because you said"...crashed with error saying that several .ace files were missing". This new route for Open Rails should NOT be installed with other routes as it replaces ACE files in the Global\Textures folder with DDS files.

[Damascus]

I noticed that the BNSF is trainsimulations or something and the MSTS are in train simulations, so they are separate. Reinstalled Surfliner and the following occurred: MSTS crashes upon loading and the route looks perfect in Open Rails. I'll call this fixed. Thanks to all.

[jbtower]

Thanks Charles after years of being out of the simulator I decided to step back in. I can't locate my MSTS program so I have been reloading old routes in to Open Rails which so far I am finding a lot better than the old MSTS!

[R. Steele]

Thanks Charles after years of being out of the simulator I decided to step back in. I can't locate my MSTS program so I have been reloading old routes in to Open Rails which so far I am finding a lot better than the old MSTS!

Welcome back, "old timer". I'm a newbie ( found OR in early 2013 and have been educating myself since then ) ... you will enjoy Open Rails, read the threads here, also join Elvas Tower for the dedicated OR forums, and most importantly start reading the latest OR manual. You'll need to do that to catch up, much good information. We need more people that dropped MSTS or wandered away from the hobby to come back and try OR.

[crstagg]

I noticed that the BNSF is trainsimulations or something and the MSTS are in train simulations, so they are separate. Reinstalled Surfliner and the following occurred: MSTS crashes upon loading and the route looks perfect in Open Rails. I'll call this fixed. Thanks to all.

The MSTS/ORTS add-on route and rolling-stock company named Streamlines, Inc (SLI) changed the name of their company to TrainSimulations.

[crstagg]

Thanks Charles after years of being out of the simulator I decided to step back in. I can't locate my MSTS program so I have been reloading old routes in to Open Rails which so far I am finding a lot better than the old MSTS!

I hope you don't mean that you have installed add-on routes and rolling stock into the same or subordinate folders of the folder that contains OpenRails.exe See Chapter #4 of the Open Rails Manual. RTFM