Open Rails FAILS TO START

[Boat23]

Hello,

i did try opening Openrails and Lone and Behold "This implementation is not part of the Windows Platform FIPS validated cryptographic algorithm" ERROR What is Going on Please Help Me i dont know What to do

[derekmorton]

you will need to post the log file which is on the desktop.

[baldwin]

I suspect there is no log file to look at. That error message indicates that none of the OR executables get going.

[R. Steele]

"This implementation is not part of the Windows Platform FIPS validated cryptographic algorithm"

Quick search finds that this error can show up when compiling programs in visual studio...is the OP trying to compile his own OR program?

[Boat23]

you will need to post the log file which is on the desktop.

Error: System.InvalidOperationException: This implementation is not part of the Windows Platform FIPS validated cryptographic algorithms.
at System.Security.Cryptography.MD5CryptoServiceProvi der..ctor()
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.InitL oading(String[] args) in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\GameStateRunActivity.cs:line 802
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.<>c__ DisplayClass35_0.<Load>b__3() in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\GameStateRunActivity.cs:line 158
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.Load( ) in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\GameStateRunActivity.cs:line 200
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.LoaderProcess.Load() in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\LoaderProcess.cs:line 158
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.LoaderProcess.DoLoad() in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\LoaderProcess.cs:line 138
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.LoaderProcess.LoaderThread () in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\LoaderProcess.cs:line 109
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context( Object state)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionCon text executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()


Error: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.Unini tLoading() in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\GameStateRunActivity.cs:line 885
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.Load( ) in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\GameStateRunActivity.cs:line 279
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.LoaderProcess.Load() in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\LoaderProcess.cs:line 158
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.LoaderProcess.DoLoad() in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\LoaderProcess.cs:line 138
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.LoaderProcess.LoaderThread () in E:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\LoaderProcess.cs:line 109
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context( Object state)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionCon text executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()

[geepster775]

Users should always post the entire log, not just the parts that novices think are relevant.

[Boat23]

There you go ERROR Log

so itt may not Say anythin about what is happenin

[slipperman]

Hi Boat23,
These are only observations.
You appear to be running a Notebook, the spec. of which is at the very lowest level for running Open Rails.

I believe that Open Rails isn't guaranteed to run on Laptops, never mind Notebooks!

You only have 2GB memory of which 1.7GB is available. There is, therefore, no point in running RunActivityLAA.exe - I suggest you remove the tick from 'Large address aware....' on the Options > General screen AND set the Super-elevation level (on Options > Experimental) to 0. You appear to have Net Framework installed and, I assume, XNA, so try running OR again.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, but have my doubts it'll do much good - Sorry

Cheers,
Ged

[Boat23]

Hi Boat23,
These are only observations.
You appear to be running a Notebook, the spec. of which is at the very lowest level for running Open Rails.

I believe that Open Rails isn't guaranteed to run on Laptops, never mind Notebooks!

You only have 2GB memory of which 1.7GB is available. There is, therefore, no point in running RunActivityLAA.exe - I suggest you remove the tick from 'Large address aware....' on the Options > General screen AND set the Super-elevation level (on Options > Experimental) to 0. You appear to have Net Framework installed and, I assume, XNA, so try running OR again.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, but have my doubts it'll do much good - Sorry

Cheers,
Ged

i Hope it Works

my Laptop Runs it Just fine

just about 11 to 18 fps

[Boat23]

The ERROR is Still There i am Kinda Mad That it Wont Wanna Run ..

[slipperman]

Hi Boat23,
There's no point in getting mad!!

11 - 18fps isn't very good, but what are the specifications of your Laptop?

By the way, I've seen your PM, but you've said nothing different!

I think it'd be better to wait and see if someone more knowledgeable than I am has any other suggestions.

Cheers,
Ged

[mikeebb]

As one who has gotten OR to start in a 2-in-1 tablet with a 1.3 ghz Atom and 2GB RAM ... I don't recommend trying. As a proof of concept, it worked in the tablet, with a minimal (MSTS default) route and all graphic and other settings turned town to minimums. It was not usable, but it worked.

I also had to suspend many other things running in the system at the same time, and had to re-install things (including DX9 and XNA) a couple of times before odd errors stopped happening. It was a lot of work and not really worth the hassle except as an interesting hack. Again, I did get it to work, under very limited testing conditions, in a machine with fewer resources than you have, but it wasn't actually playable.

I'd stick with your other laptop if the fps and control response times are acceptable there.

The "minimum requirements" for hardware for OR are, as with much software, the lowest that it can run on with any reliability at all - you really need much more.

With the first of those errors, I wonder if you have a Windows installation problem. I've never seen a crypto-related error message in OR. But .Net can throw odd errors - sort of like in the FORTRAN days when runtime errors had little to do with what actually went wrong, just where it started in the code. That's another thing: those location references don't look like errors I've seen in plain-vanilla OR (and I've seen plenty). Are you running one you compiled yourself? Try downloading the stable version 1.3 from the web site and installing it after thoroughly cleaning up your system (consider a "fresh install" of Windows (as 10 labels it) in the process).

In Task Manager, how much actual physical RAM and committed RAM (they're not the same thing) are available just before starting OR? If it's less than 1GB, forget about it - OR (even the non-LAA version) just won't work, and with Windows trying to shift processes around in virtual memory it's very likely that something will get confused and throw an error - not just OR.

The Trainsimulations "Scenic" route for OR is not a low-resource route. It has significant scenery and, if running an activity, fairly detailed trains. It's very possible that it's running OR out of memory and throwing odd .Net errors as a result. Perhaps something smaller like the Zig-Zag route would be more practical as a test item. My tablet testing was with a MSTS default route; they have very low scenery and train detail.

[Boat23]

will .XNA 3.1 and DX 9 Be Reinstalled

[mikeebb]

The full, stable 1.3 Open Rails installer checks your system, and if needed installs XNA 3.1, DirectX 9.0c, and/or .Net 3.5SP1. If they are already present, they are not reinstalled.

[Boat23]

Does this mean i need XNA 3.5 For 1.3 ORTS