BNSF scenic OR starter kit. What's the difference?

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  • stlsf4003
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2016
    • 133
    • Fort Smith, AR

    #1

    BNSF scenic OR starter kit. What's the difference?

    It seems that Train Simulations is now offering their own starter route for OR in the form of the BNSF Scenic sub.

    But what i want to know is if there's a difference between the starter kit route and the Payware version?
  • derekmorton
    5500 Post Veteran



    • Nov 1999
    • 5699
    • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
    • ORTS

    #2
    link, I can't find anything like it?

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    • uli2
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 503
      • Berlin/Germany
      • MSOR

      #3

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      • =FI=Ghost
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 660
        • Germany
        • Serbian, Croatian, English, German, Russian
        • ORTS

        #4
        Someone has mentioned that at Elvas tower. Apparently, this is a "shortened" version of the route, but I don't know if it's shortened version of Scenic Sub 1.0 or 2.0.
        Borislav
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        • paulytechnic
          Senior Member

          • May 2010
          • 152
          • Tampa, FL
          • General

          #5
          I've only glanced at it, but the route itself might be based on Scenic Sub 1.0, as the terrtex is not the Mosaic version found on 2.0. There are only 2 locomotives included (ES44AC numbers 5817 & 5852), but they appear to be the newer variety from the Scenic Sub 2.0 locomotive upgrade (those originally designed for MSTS2).
          Paul
          Virtual Groundskeeper

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          • lateagain
            2500 Post Veteran
            • Jul 2004
            • 2727
            • Wareham, Dorset, U.K.

            #6
            Originally posted by stlsf4003
            It seems that Train Simulations is now offering their own starter route for OR in the form of the BNSF Scenic sub.

            But what i want to know is if there's a difference between the starter kit route and the Payware version?
            ...err am I missing something? What's a "starter Route"? ....and if their Stock packs now are OR only why would we need that?

            Call me a dummy but please explain?
            Geoff
            Dorset - near The Swanage Railway.
            UK

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            • eolesen
              9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



              • Dec 2002
              • 9583
              • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
              • English, SQL
              • General

              #7
              A starter route is something that a new ORTS user who didn't know anything else existed could use. There's been a UK route available for this with the ORTS distributables, and this adds a North America route to increase the potential audience.

              The BNSF Scenic Route is a starter route for those looking to explore the world of Open Rails. This package is a complete route with locomotives, rolling stock, and activities to get you started. If you do not have Open Rails installed, it is included with this software and will installed at the same time.
              It's a great way to get someone new to ORTS up and running.
              If you like what you see here at Trainsim.com, be it the discussions and knowledge in the forums, or items available in our library, I hope you'll consider a paid membership to help support keeping the site operating.... Thanks!

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              • geepster775
                2500 Post Veteran


                • Sep 2006
                • 2846
                • .
                • General

                #8
                At least someone is attempting to grow the franchise. More should be done by the other vendors, too, at least the ones who aren't spiraling into a closed club decline.

                Besides, how frequent do new people find a free route that is self contained - route, rolling stock and activities all set to go?

                5000 amateur junkskins that require shape file hacks and replacement sound aliasing and freeware routes that lack basic paths and activities for version 2.1 that are unplayable on version 2.2 of such-n-such route and this version not that version of Tsection being required (i.e. this site in its heyday) doesn't seem to be doing that much anymore to add to the headcount.
                Last edited by geepster775; 11-20-2018, 11:45.
                My Open Rails videos https://www.youtube.com/@lakecities3663/videos

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                • stlsf4003
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2016
                  • 133
                  • Fort Smith, AR

                  #9
                  Originally posted by =FI=Ghost
                  Someone has mentioned that at Elvas tower. Apparently, this is a "shortened" version of the route, but I don't know if it's shortened version of Scenic Sub 1.0 or 2.0.
                  Can i get a link to that post? If you can find it that this.

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                  • csantucci
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 1999
                    • 856
                    • Torino, Italy.

                    #10
                    I think you are referring to this
                    http://www.elvastower.com/forums/ind...ost__p__242690
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                    • Arc Light
                      Member
                      • Jan 2018
                      • 39
                      • N/A

                      #11
                      I've checked briefly the Track Viewer for both the Starter and Scenic 2.0 - all the track in Scenic 2.0 is present in the Starter. The engines seem to be the same.

                      Overall, a good move I'd say....but I already have it!

                      A good sample of what they have to offer (test out the sounds, cab, shape, and textures - see the quality). It appears to be the same loco included in Scenic 2.0

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