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  • Shawmut
    Senior Member

    • Oct 2008
    • 548
    • Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
    • General

    #16
    Originally posted by Shortliner
    How does Monogame improve ORTS?
    A very dramatic improvement in framerates. With the regular XNA version of OR I get mid-30's FPS on 3DTrains' Sherman Hill route in the urban areas, with the Monogame version it rarely dips below 60 FPS.

    Regards,

    David

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    • Shortliner
      New Member
      • Dec 2007
      • 0
      • Concord, NC

      #17
      Originally posted by advut
      Thank you Carlo for continuing this endeavour of yours. I downloaded your earlier releases from THAT site but couldn't give feedback or even say thank you due to not being a member. Monogame coupled with a good sweetfx preset is what makes ORTS a game to play in 2018.
      Do you know where I can get the Sweetfx presets?
      Sean Summer
      CEO of Blue Ridge Mountains Machine works.

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      • burgerbern
        1000 Post Veteran



        • Mar 2005
        • 1088
        • United Kingdom.
        • UK English
        • MSOR

        #18
        here, although in the list of presets ORTS does not seem to be listed https://sfx.thelazy.net/downloads/
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        • advut
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 178
          • General

          #19
          Yes, that is the correct site. You either have to create a brand new SweetFX preset or download one from a site like that & adjust it so that it works with ORTS to your liking.

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          • rdayt
            1000 Post Veteran

            • Nov 2007
            • 1291
            • SW MO
            • ORTS

            #20
            Here
            Post 16 shows whereto get and how to install Reshade post 23 has a link to Scott's preset.

            Randy

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            • Shrey01
              New Member
              • Sep 2017
              • 4

              #21
              Hello Everyone can Anyone tell me how to install this MG version of openrails

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              • Pecho Lata
                Member
                • Dec 2006
                • 40
                • .
                • General

                #22
                Thanks Carlo for this new MG version

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                • EldoradoRailroad
                  Senior Member

                  • May 2010
                  • 212

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Shawmut
                  A very dramatic improvement in framerates. With the regular XNA version of OR I get mid-30's FPS on 3DTrains' Sherman Hill route in the urban areas, with the Monogame version it rarely dips below 60 FPS.
                  To clarify a bit more, Monogame can increase performance but:

                  a) your hardware has to be more recent, in my experience works on a machine built in 2013, and Intel at that

                  b) unless you have a super-duper laptop with a separate GPU and a)

                  c) works best with a super-duper GPU. like a Nvidia 1080ti, etc, SLI?

                  c) Monogame uses less memory than the XNA version, this is good as OOM are less likely to occur.. at least for now

                  d) you can enable Shadow All Shapes, but there are still a few routes that can still bring framerates to it's knees

                  e) I had to disable the screensaver, as once Monogame is interrupted, you cannot recover without killing the program, solution, be careful when you use auto pilot mode, or press a keyboard key BEFORE the screensaver is launched

                  f) you might have to hunt for some external dlls that are missing (or at least were) that are not part of Monogame.. eg D3D compiler.. which I found in a Firefox distro

                  g) in my experience, super-sampling graphics mode is outstanding (good hardware required), but the caveat is, you cannot enhance the graphics modes with things like Nvidia Inspector, this is similar to the handcuffs TS201x has imposed

                  h) I make no warranties, expressed or implied that what I have observed is 100% accurate no matter what version of Monogame OpenRails you are using, that means subject to change without notice, and feel free to correct or add you observations

                  You have to thank Carlo, over and over again, for discovering this work from a previous Open Rails developer and keeping it alive and updated!

                  Steve

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                  • bwbrgb
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 441
                    • Ontario, Canada
                    • General

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Shrey01
                    Hello Everyone can Anyone tell me how to install this MG version of openrails
                    Read post #9 !

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                    • Shrey01
                      New Member
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 4

                      #25
                      Sir I installed it properly But now whenever I try to play it not runs I get an error open rails has stopped working now what to do for it?

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                      • haverfordwest
                        5500 Post Veteran


                        • May 2010
                        • 5541
                        • Johnston, S.W.WALES
                        • Run8

                        #26
                        Thanks very much for the link buddy. I am going to give this Monogame version a go with MEP.

                        Mike.
                        Yma O Hyd

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                        • Shawmut
                          Senior Member

                          • Oct 2008
                          • 548
                          • Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
                          • General

                          #27
                          Originally posted by EldoradoRailroad
                          To clarify a bit more, Monogame can increase performance but:

                          a) your hardware has to be more recent, in my experience works on a machine built in 2013, and Intel at that

                          b) unless you have a super-duper laptop with a separate GPU and a)

                          c) works best with a super-duper GPU. like a Nvidia 1080ti, etc, SLI?
                          Mine's a 5-year old core i5 @ 3.4 GHz with a plain-Jane Nvidia 1060, so anything better will most certainly give superlative results. Even my European routes, which are typically urban-based and more CPU- and GPU-intensive than the North American western routes that seem to be so much in favor, still give me 60 fps most of the time. And if it dips to say, the high 30's-low 40's, the result is still the same, at least to my eyes.

                          Originally posted by EldoradoRailroad
                          c) Monogame uses less memory than the XNA version, this is good as OOM are less likely to occur.. at least for now
                          And as with the XNA version, you get better results on an SSD rather than a spinning drive ...

                          Originally posted by EldoradoRailroad
                          e) I had to disable the screensaver, as once Monogame is interrupted, you cannot recover without killing the program, solution, be careful when you use auto pilot mode, or press a keyboard key BEFORE the screensaver is launched

                          f) you might have to hunt for some external dlls that are missing (or at least were) that are not part of Monogame.. eg D3D compiler.. which I found in a Firefox distro
                          Hmm, never had either of those problems, so clearly YMMV ...

                          Originally posted by EldoradoRailroad
                          h) I make no warranties, expressed or implied that what I have observed is 100% accurate no matter what version of Monogame OpenRails you are using, that means subject to change without notice, and feel free to correct or add you observations
                          Thanks, Steve, so rare to find someone on these forums anymore that is more interested in improving our collective knowledge than imposing his ego.

                          Originally posted by EldoradoRailroad
                          You have to thank Carlo, over and over again, for discovering this work from a previous Open Rails developer and keeping it alive and updated!
                          And amen to that!

                          Cheers,

                          David

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                          • csantucci
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 1999
                            • 856
                            • Torino, Italy.

                            #28
                            There is another reason to switch to Monogame sooner or later: MS has stopped development of XNA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_XNA .
                            Moreover selecting the Multisampling video option the OR MG graphics is finer than the OR standard one (at least to me).
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                            • ebnertra000
                              1500 Post Veteran


                              • Jun 2013
                              • 1778
                              • Minnesota

                              #29
                              I actually had the screen saver pop up on me during a test run last night, and I got OR back without trouble and was able to continue for two more hours before I decided everything was 'in ordnung'.

                              I usually get anywhere from about 20-60fps, which is actually slower than vanilla OR, but still pretty good, and no worse than I would get from MSTS back in the day. So I'll take it, anytime, anywhere

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                              • burgerbern
                                1000 Post Veteran



                                • Mar 2005
                                • 1088
                                • United Kingdom.
                                • UK English
                                • MSOR

                                #30
                                on Sherman hill passing Cheyenne station i am getting a 13fps improvement with the Monogame + reshade combination over the latest testing version.
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