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  • dphorton
    Senior Member
    • Nov 1999
    • 852
    • Las Vegas, NV USA.
    • General

    #1

    Purchasing MSTS for Open Rail

    I just wanted to express my view on purchasing MSTS to use efficiently Open Rails. I have now waited over 30 days for delivery from one source and then is was never delivered. Amazon said I cancelled the order, which I didn't. Tracking showed it never left the Post Office. Then ordered another from a different Source. Item delivered to somewhere in California and not Las Vegas NV. Purchasing Source did send another copy, yet to be delivered First Class Mail.

    Is MSTS Public domain? If it is then why can't it be placed somewhere easy to download. I don't know if it is Public Domain or not. I tried Free Downloads that never work.

    So after waiting a long time maybe I will finally get to run OR.
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    Dave Horton
    Las Vegas, NV
  • baldwin
    6000 Post Veteran


    • Nov 1999
    • 6358
    • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
    • ORTS

    #2
    MSTS has never been in the public domain and has never been free to download, unless you are looking at pirate sites. I think the code is currently owned by the Explosiv label, at least that is what my second copy has on the cover.

    OR itself will run without MSTS being present, but most routes will be missing a lot of assets. Unlike MSTS, OR will not fail to run if these are missing, but will generate a list of missing shapes in the log file.
    Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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    • dphorton
      Senior Member
      • Nov 1999
      • 852
      • Las Vegas, NV USA.
      • General

      #3
      That is what I thought. Thanks for the answer. I believe that we could post the place that you can get a copy though. I will check out Explosiv Label.
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      Dave Horton
      Las Vegas, NV

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      • geepster775
        2500 Post Veteran


        • Sep 2006
        • 2846
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        #4
        Originally posted by dphorton
        So after waiting a long time maybe I will finally get to run OR.

        You could run OR in 20 minutes from right now without MSTS anything. The longest wait time is actually waiting for a payware route installer to finish. Now that's efficient!

        Files from the library here that require batch files and pre-requisite MSTS routes? Hardly the efficient way to go.
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        • ftldave
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 448
          • Bloomington, Indiana

          #5
          Perhaps running nice, fun routes and MSTS content is the real goal here, not machine-like efficiency. I only use OR for screen shots and making videos because its incompatibilities make my experience, shall we say, inefficient.
          FTLDave

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          • dphorton
            Senior Member
            • Nov 1999
            • 852
            • Las Vegas, NV USA.
            • General

            #6
            Hi all,
            I didn't mean Route efficiency, I meant an efficient way to purchase MSTS. Again thanks for the responses.
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            Dave Horton
            Las Vegas, NV

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            • Coonskin
              3000 Post Veteran

              • Aug 2002
              • 3226
              • Poteau, OK, USA.

              #7
              I don't know ANYTHING about this offer or this site, but a quick Google search for MSTS turned up this:

              Train Sim is the realistic train game suitable for both adults and kids who enjoy trains. Control your more than 50+ historical and modern trains which are perfectly recreated in 3D for your mobile device.


              Personally, I'm suspicious... but still... for the sake of this discussion, thought I'd pitch the above link into the mix for input.
              Andre Ming
              V Scale Creations.com R.I.P

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              • paulytechnic
                Senior Member

                • May 2010
                • 152
                • Tampa, FL
                • General

                #8
                Andre,

                That appears to be a "train sim" game app mainly for mobile phones (and Win 10), which is completely unrelated to MSTS (although I can see why having it on a Microsoft site would add to the confusion).
                Paul
                Virtual Groundskeeper

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                • Coonskin
                  3000 Post Veteran

                  • Aug 2002
                  • 3226
                  • Poteau, OK, USA.

                  #9
                  Phone ap, huh?

                  Can you tell I don't get out much?

                  Andre Ming
                  V Scale Creations.com R.I.P

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                  • R. Steele
                    3500 Post Veteran

                    • Feb 2013
                    • 3928
                    • known universe
                    • ORTS

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Coonskin
                    Phone ap, huh?

                    Can you tell I don't get out much?

                    Maybe you don't get out much, but remember if they're keeping you in, it's better to be on the main floor than in the attic or basement.
                    Myself, they let me open the windows and look out...that's fun.
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                    • dphorton
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 1999
                      • 852
                      • Las Vegas, NV USA.
                      • General

                      #11
                      I got it from Lidorun. Great Customer Service as they sent to the wrong address. Sent another First Class. I am happy now.
                      HP Omen Obelisk Desktop, i7-8700, GeForce RTX 2080, Windows 11 Pro

                      Dave Horton
                      Las Vegas, NV

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                      • NorthernWarrior
                        6500 Post Veteran


                        • Apr 2007
                        • 6922
                        • Swindon, England

                        #12
                        Just bear in mind that many users are having issues getting Disc 2 to run, due to M$ disowning Securom. Not sure if that only affects W10 or W7 (which I see you are running) as well.
                        Vern.

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                        • dphorton
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 1999
                          • 852
                          • Las Vegas, NV USA.
                          • General

                          #13
                          The Disk 2 work perfectly. Thanks Vern.
                          HP Omen Obelisk Desktop, i7-8700, GeForce RTX 2080, Windows 11 Pro

                          Dave Horton
                          Las Vegas, NV

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                          • dphorton
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 1999
                            • 852
                            • Las Vegas, NV USA.
                            • General

                            #14
                            Hi Everyone,
                            I can't get MSTS to start after install. I am trying to find suggestions in the Forum. Anyone had this problem? MSTS is in the default location C:/Program Files(x86)/Microsoft Games\Train Simulator.
                            HP Omen Obelisk Desktop, i7-8700, GeForce RTX 2080, Windows 11 Pro

                            Dave Horton
                            Las Vegas, NV

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                            • Erick_Cantu
                              1000 Post Veteran


                              • Jun 2004
                              • 1041
                              • Brighton, MA 02135
                              • General

                              #15
                              Originally posted by dphorton
                              MSTS is in the default location C:/Program Files(x86)/Microsoft Games\Train Simulator.
                              That's probably your answer.
                              Erick Cantu
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