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  • daniellouwrens
    1500 Post Veteran

    • Sep 2005
    • 1730
    • Gandangara Estate, Sutherland Shire. N.S.W, Australia.

    #1

    Missing Wagon entry

    Hi

    I have downloaded a number of rolling stock files, made for use
    with OR and all of them have nothing in the first Wagon line.

    They look like this
    SIMISA@@@@@@@@@@JINX0D0t______

    Wagon (
    ATSE
    Type ( Engine )

    My question is, does this matter in OR

    Thanks

    Daniel
    Daniel - Sydney (Glad I'm not in Townsville)
    It used to be my favourite place in the world.
  • R. Steele
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    • Feb 2013
    • 3928
    • known universe
    • ORTS

    #2
    Daniel, could you provide a link to the source, so I could download them myself?
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    • daniellouwrens
      1500 Post Veteran

      • Sep 2005
      • 1730
      • Gandangara Estate, Sutherland Shire. N.S.W, Australia.

      #3
      Originally posted by R. Steele
      Daniel, could you provide a link to the source, so I could download them myself?
      Now you're asking a lot :-)

      This was a labour of love over two weeks, finding stock for some LGE activities
      and unfortunately I cleaned up the history in my weekly clean up the PC procedure.

      Here are the main three sites



      This website is for sale! actmsts.com is your first and best source for all of the information you’re looking for. From general topics to more of what you would expect to find here, actmsts.com has it all. We hope you find what you are searching for!




      but it took a bit of searching, I have not spoken or read
      French or German for a long time, from memory some also came from

      www.thetrain.de

      My search method was using google and entering "MSTS xxxx", the x being the name of the engine or wagon.
      (not teaching you to suck eggs)

      I just found some direct links in my DL history, so here they are, not sure if they are all OR specific, I just
      downloaded anything that seemed right.











      Regards

      Daniel
      Daniel - Sydney (Glad I'm not in Townsville)
      It used to be my favourite place in the world.

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      • crstagg
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        • Nov 1999
        • 4885
        • Huntsville, AL
        • Texan
        • MSOR

        #4
        Originally posted by daniellouwrens
        Hi

        I have downloaded a number of rolling stock files, made for use
        with OR and all of them have nothing in the first Wagon line.

        They look like this
        SIMISA@@@@@@@@@@JINX0D0t______

        Wagon (
        ATSE
        Type ( Engine )

        My question is, does this matter in OR

        Thanks

        Daniel
        What is the filename of your example? is it "ATSE.eng"?
        Charles

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        • daniellouwrens
          1500 Post Veteran

          • Sep 2005
          • 1730
          • Gandangara Estate, Sutherland Shire. N.S.W, Australia.

          #5
          Yes it is....
          Daniel - Sydney (Glad I'm not in Townsville)
          It used to be my favourite place in the world.

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          • daniellouwrens
            1500 Post Veteran

            • Sep 2005
            • 1730
            • Gandangara Estate, Sutherland Shire. N.S.W, Australia.

            #6
            Okay Charles.... I see the problem.

            Question now is "does it matter in OR"?

            Cheers

            Daniel
            Daniel - Sydney (Glad I'm not in Townsville)
            It used to be my favourite place in the world.

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            • crstagg
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              • Nov 1999
              • 4885
              • Huntsville, AL
              • Texan
              • MSOR

              #7
              Originally posted by daniellouwrens
              Yes it is....
              Then the files should work OK in ORTS.
              Charles

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              • crstagg
                4500 Post Veteran


                • Nov 1999
                • 4885
                • Huntsville, AL
                • Texan
                • MSOR

                #8
                Originally posted by daniellouwrens
                Okay Charles.... I see the problem.

                Question now is "does it matter in OR"?

                Cheers

                Daniel
                I don't think so. One of the things I did for ConBuilder was compare what happened in MSTS and ORTS for the different tests that ConBuilder does when testing ENG files. When there is a Spelling difference between the filename and the ENG file's Engine line and its two wagon lines, MSTS will crash. ORTS seems to totally ignore the lines. The filename could be "ABCD" and the Engine and Wagon lines "WXYZ" and ORTS will use the ENG as if nothing is wrong. All in the difference in how the two Sims store the Train database.
                Charles

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                • daniellouwrens
                  1500 Post Veteran

                  • Sep 2005
                  • 1730
                  • Gandangara Estate, Sutherland Shire. N.S.W, Australia.

                  #9
                  Thanks Charles, I appreciate your help.

                  I would have tested it but I am in the process of moving data between drives
                  and as I have 4 x 2 TB drives that takes a lot of time.

                  But I should be finished tomorrow and will test it then just to be sure.

                  Regards

                  Daniel
                  Daniel - Sydney (Glad I'm not in Townsville)
                  It used to be my favourite place in the world.

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                  • daniellouwrens
                    1500 Post Veteran

                    • Sep 2005
                    • 1730
                    • Gandangara Estate, Sutherland Shire. N.S.W, Australia.

                    #10
                    Hi

                    I tested a few of the eng files in OR and they work fine, unfortunately
                    they do not show up in Conbuilder's Engine list in the screen for building a
                    consist nor when you load an existing con file that uses one of the engines.

                    I do have ORTS ON in CB.

                    Cheers

                    Daniel
                    Daniel - Sydney (Glad I'm not in Townsville)
                    It used to be my favourite place in the world.

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                    • crstagg
                      4500 Post Veteran


                      • Nov 1999
                      • 4885
                      • Huntsville, AL
                      • Texan
                      • MSOR

                      #11
                      Originally posted by daniellouwrens
                      Hi

                      I tested a few of the eng files in OR and they work fine, unfortunately
                      they do not show up in Conbuilder's Engine list in the screen for building a
                      consist nor when you load an existing con file that uses one of the engines.

                      I do have ORTS ON in CB.

                      Cheers

                      Daniel
                      That is because ConBuilder was programed to duplicate the way MSTS stores the Trainset database. The index entries are the values in the Wagon line and the Engine line. So these files appear to ConBuilder as if the value is " ".

                      Having "Using ORTS ON" only eliminates the Startup test to verify that the Engine and Wagon lines agree with the filename. MSTS will crash if the don't. As stated before ORTS ignores those entries.
                      Charles

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