OR has become somewhat unstable the last few releases?

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  • qballbandit
    6500 Post Veteran

    • Jan 2006
    • 6522
    • Elgin Il., USA.
    • MSOR

    #1

    OR has become somewhat unstable the last few releases?

    Hello,
    I make a point to run the latest of the builds from James's site: http://james-ross.co.uk/projects/or/builds.
    The last handful of builds that I have installed have been running pretty unstable for me. I am experiencing lot's of sound distortion when AI trains are in the vicinity - enough to where sound will cut out completely, or, parts of the sound files will go missing, sometimes returning.
    I have also noticed chunks of trains missing both on the player and AI trains. It's almost like a memory leak, or lack of memory? I have not changed any of the settings/options that I have used for the last year withing the OR UI.
    This reminds me of what I used to experience in MSTS after upgrading to WIN7 from XP, prior to finding out about the memory switch/LAA tweaks.
    It's happening with any route/activity, and any train. I thought it was something global within MSTS/OR that maybe I recently added, but I can't find a common denominator. I am not sure if it is sound, graphics, memory?

    I am experiencing no problems in MSFS, nor any other aspect of my system.

    I wiped the sound and vid drivers, and re-installed, thinking maybe something got corrupted, but that didn't correct it.
    Has anyone else had issues over the last couple of weeks with any of the newer builds?

    Thanks very much,
    Neil

    Chicago Railroading Fan
  • Shawmut
    Senior Member

    • Oct 2008
    • 548
    • Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
    • General

    #2
    Hi Neil,

    I have several installations of the OR engine: the stable 1.2, the weekly (not daily) releases of the eXperimental version, and a MonoGame version as well. With the OR-X version, I noticed that after X-4137 that I was not getting the weekly updates. Strange. So I went into Silver's Simple Site and downloaded those daily versions after version 4137 as well as Carlo Santucci's latest MonoGame version, built on X4141.

    Well, I soon ran into problems, including much slower FPS and wagons not displaying in consists. Turns out that every version after 4137 has had some problems, and the lack of certain wagons displaying turns out to be that Freightanims aren't displaying; see this helpful Elvas post here. By the way, Carlo's latest MonoGame build has the same problem.

    Maybe this is why there weren't weekly updates after 4137?

    David
    Last edited by Shawmut; 06-01-2018, 13:26. Reason: graphical glitches

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    • csantucci
      Senior Member
      • Nov 1999
      • 856
      • Torino, Italy.

      #3
      Yes, as it often occurs, the addition of a new feature in x.4138 has led to running and display problems for wagons with freightanimations. As the standard x.4141 OR version still had that problem, also the related Monogame version had the same problem.
      Problems should now have been disappeared in x.4142. Therefore I immediately generated the related Monogame version, that is as always available in the ET forum.
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      • advut
        Senior Member
        • May 2010
        • 178
        • General

        #4
        Hi qballbandit, I saw in the screenshots thread you were using Claus's new HD skydomes which are quite large like nearly 30 mb. I am wondering if using those textures are eating too much memory and making ORTS exceed the limit. Claus once said he uses Monogame ORTS which is capable of using more than 4 gb memory. James Ross's site supplies XNA ORTS which can't use more than 4 gb. Is this creating the problem? Maybe try running with default skydome.

        I only use monogame ORTS now because of sweetfx. So, I don't download new xna builds anymore. Anyway I think ORTS is weak in sounds. There are always issues like distortion when taking a curve, loud birds, rivers. station announcements etc. I also had situations where I sound the horn in cabview, it blows and stops, but then after switching to external camera (2) after like 2 minutes horn blows again without me sounding it.

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        • scottb613
          2500 Post Veteran


          • Apr 2003
          • 2848
          • Downeast Maine (soon)
          • ORTS

          #5
          Originally posted by csantucci
          Yes, as it often occurs, the addition of a new feature in x.4138 has led to running and display problems for wagons with freightanimations. As the standard x.4141 OR version still had that problem, also the related Monogame version had the same problem.
          Problems should now have been disappeared in x.4142. Therefore I immediately generated the related Monogame version, that is as always available in the ET forum.
          Hi Carlo,

          Would it be possible to sticky a thread at Elvas with the latest version of Monogame - it seems many times it’s buried in threads where it’s difficult to find...

          Thanks for the consideration...

          Regards,
          Scott


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          • ossie
            1000 Post Veteran and Moderator



            • May 2010
            • 1298
            • Melbourne, Australia
            • MSOR

            #6
            I'd second that request Scott... and glad to hear I'm not the only one that has trouble finding the monogame version!
            Cheers!
            Pete

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            • qballbandit
              6500 Post Veteran

              • Jan 2006
              • 6522
              • Elgin Il., USA.
              • MSOR

              #7
              David & Carlo,
              Thanks very much for the information. I downloaded the latest build version tonight, and will have a chance to run it tomorrow. Keeping my fingers crossed on this!

              Hi advut, I had thought of that too. I did indeed try to use an earlier skydome that I had used many times without issue, and still suffered the symptoms. Until I can get the graphics challenges worked out (if they can indeed be worked out), I can't yet enjoy monogame.
              Neil

              Chicago Railroading Fan

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              • Curt C
                1000 Post Veteran

                • Jul 2001
                • 1032
                • UP's dead Santa Barbara Sub
                • General

                #8
                I hate to bring up an old thread, but I was wondering if the issues with the OR updates has been fixed? I'm currently running 4137, and the game is running ok. I see that the latest version is 4165, and wanted to see if people are still having issues, before I updated. Thanks in advance.

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                • qballbandit
                  6500 Post Veteran

                  • Jan 2006
                  • 6522
                  • Elgin Il., USA.
                  • MSOR

                  #9
                  Hi Curt,
                  The object issues I noted in my original post are long gone. I have been using the 416x releases of late, and have no issues like posted above.
                  I always have sound issues, but never sure if it's OR, or my system, Tried pretty much everything I can think of, but I can't get rid of the sound distortions and complete FUBAR sound wig-outs I often experience. Don't let that cloud your using these latest releases, though.
                  Neil

                  Chicago Railroading Fan

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