Freight Wagon Disappearing in OPen Rails

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  • davidpravin1970
    New Member
    • May 2010
    • 15

    #1

    Freight Wagon Disappearing in OPen Rails

    Hi all, once again i have come to the forum for some assistance. I have earlier developed meter gauge rolling stock for Indian Railways for use on MSTS. Switching on to OR everything was fine but off and on the caboose/ guard van disappears from the scene and when the same scenario is restarted the guard van is there very much. This is the only rolling stock which behaves like this in OR. the coaches, the steam locomotives and other freight wagons have no issues at all.

    Kindly help and i can attach any further information that might be required

    thanks

    Pravin David
  • advut
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 178
    • General

    #2
    I would like to know the solution to this problem as well. I also encounter this issue with some of the rolling stock that I have.

    Hi Pravin, does the default MSTS SD40-2 display correctly in your ORTS? Because in my case it doesn't.

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    • buttercup
      2500 Post Veteran
      • Nov 1999
      • 2535
      • .

      #3
      Do a search for info on "vol_sphere" it may be the problem.
      Regards,

      Eric

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      • davidpravin1970
        New Member
        • May 2010
        • 15

        #4
        i will check on that

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        • davidpravin1970
          New Member
          • May 2010
          • 15

          #5
          kindly let me know what i need to look for in vol_shere which may help me with the problem

          thanks

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          • ebnertra000
            1500 Post Veteran


            • Jun 2013
            • 1778
            • Minnesota

            #6
            Pravin,

            In the first few lines of the wagon's .s file (it must be uncompressed to see it), there will be a line called
            Code:
            vol_sphere ( bunch of numbers in brackets ) one number outside of brackets
            .
            The one number outside the brackets is what determines the volume sphere around your object. The number is the radius of an imaginary sphere drawn around the shape. If any part of that sphere is visible to the camera, the wagon is drawn. An absurdly small number there will cause objects to disappear while still in the camera area, since the sphere is not big enough to cover the object.

            Quite honestly, that doesn't sound like your problem to me. I don't know what the trouble is, but unless it disappears and reappears depending on the camera angle, it isn't the volume sphere

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            • davidpravin1970
              New Member
              • May 2010
              • 15

              #7
              no it does not dissappear or re appear. it just goes off and i c it only after a system restart or OR restart

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              • davidpravin1970
                New Member
                • May 2010
                • 15

                #8
                i guess i have understood what you meant. i increased the number outside the bracket and it seems so far the guard van does not disappear but i am still doing my tests to make sure. thanks for the great and timely input to look into that aspect within the shape file.

                thanks once again

                Pravin David

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                • davidpravin1970
                  New Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 15

                  #9
                  Thanks i did alter the number outside the bracket to a higher no and it seems the guard van does not disappear so far. but i am still testing.


                  thanks

                  Pravin david

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                  • Vince
                    6500 Post Veteran

                    • Nov 1999
                    • 6961
                    • Mohave

                    #10
                    From my notes: De-compress the shape file and see the following at the top.
                    Code:
                    SIMISA@@@@@@@@@@JINX0s1t______
                    
                    shape (
                    shape_header ( 00000000 00000000 )
                    volumes ( 1
                    vol_sphere ( 
                    vector ( 46.612695 2.9792 37.291229 ) 86.158682
                    )
                    )
                    
                    Where is says vector, make sure that the number outside the parentheses
                     is larger than the first number in the parentheses.
                    If not, change the last number so it is larger than the 
                    first number by about 2x . If no fix , keep increasing it.
                    regards,
                    ............Vince ..............
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                    • Boat23
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2018
                      • 102
                      • White Pigeon

                      #11
                      i have that same Problem with my GP38-2 And Fright cars do not appear i played the game when i got it never shown up what is going on

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                      • R. Steele
                        3500 Post Veteran

                        • Feb 2013
                        • 3928
                        • known universe
                        • ORTS

                        #12
                        Originally posted by advut
                        I would like to know the solution to this problem as well. I also encounter this issue with some of the rolling stock that I have.

                        Hi Pravin, does the default MSTS SD40-2 display correctly in your ORTS? Because in my case it doesn't.
                        This may not be related to the OPs problem, the disappearing SD40-2 is a known problem with it's shape file, nothing to do with OR.
                        ...and since that shape file - with the error - was used innumerable times in other models, you may find it again and again.
                        see here >>> http://msts.steam4me.net/tutorials/fix_sd402.html
                        In all MSTS problems STEAM4ME has to be your 1st resource!
                        Cheers, Gerry
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                        • Boat25

                          #13
                          Hi agian and i am not geting rolling stock on ORTS and it's getting to be a pain not to get it on the game i got MONON-2 Route and it fails to install 3 times and i have a GP38-2 And that shows but not the Rolling stock but what is the problem

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                          • R. Steele
                            3500 Post Veteran

                            • Feb 2013
                            • 3928
                            • known universe
                            • ORTS

                            #14
                            Tack your log onto a post. People need to see the OR log, what is loading or not loading. So next time you run OR and have missing rolling stock, post your log in this thread, it may provide valuable information to people wanting to help you solve your problem.

                            As it stands right now, not enough information from you. Since you are not the OP, people are more inclined to help them, you should start your own thread, describe your problem in greater detail, providing specific names of missing equipment ( and library file names, if possible) and Post your OR log.
                            Cheers, Gerry
                            "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
                            It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
                            Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
                            Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

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                            • advut
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 178
                              • General

                              #15
                              Hey, thank you. It now displays correctly.

                              Sorry that I blamed ORTS but I thought if it displays in MSTS but not in ORTS it must be ORTS fault.

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