OR Tips/Fixes/Thread Refs-PT1

**lateagain** · 01-05-2018, 03:24

Thanks for that Gerry.

That's really useful. Copied the post and saved it as a PDF for future reference. Might be worth uploading it to the library as such? Hunting down useful info in forums is often a thankless task as few forums have a decent search engine?

Obviously as a WIP and with all the debate about OR physics this sort of reference will be extremely useful until more solutions are found and those are incorporated in the manual?

I have to say the OR Manual is an intimidating tome! Once manuals get that big just finding the topic under which any issue occurs is a task in itself ....and then the manual is a passive tool which cannot in itself answer questions? FAQ topics like your listing at least allow for Q&A's

**Vince** · 01-05-2018, 11:55

Originally posted by lateagain

".......................snip...................... .......I have to say the OR Manual is an intimidating tome! Once manuals get that big just finding the topic under which any issue occurs is a task in itself ....and then the manual is a passive tool which cannot in itself answer questions? FAQ topics like your listing at least allow for Q&A's

Mornin' Geoff,

The OR Manual is searchable.

regards,

**lateagain** · 01-05-2018, 17:53

Originally posted by Vince

Mornin' Geoff,

The OR Manual is searchable.

regards,

....

as is ANY document Vince. They're STILL passive.

Here in the UK folk of my generation grew up with a company called Haynes Publishing. Haynes used to publish workshop manuals for just about every make of car released in the UK.... BUT.... that was when anyone with a degree of mechanical competence could hoick an engine out of the car and strip it down and rebuild it (sometimes on the dining room floor

). BUT two things happened. First cars got better and more reliable (no need to rebuild engines they lasted longer than most folk would keep the car) and secondly (and MORE RELEVANT) they became VERY sophisticated and stuff like engine management systems came in. Further more simple stuff like how the window opened, seat adjusted, mirrors adjusted etc.etc. became MUCH more complicated.

NOW I go online where there is a brilliant forum where owners of my cars post "how to tips" ...even VIDEO "how to fix x,y or z".

Forums aren't passive and you can pose or search EXACT problems. These may OR may not be in the manuals BUT if the author of the manual knows the problem is in section 4 para 5 and you think you have a problem that as far as you can see is in section 7 ...somewhere...???? Your "search" will often miss.

On my car forum if you can't find the relevant area you merely need to post (as folk do here) and those who understand the TRUE reason for your issue can point you in the right direction. OFTEN this is another post in the forum that's clearer than "The Manual".

In solving problems you can never have too many tools?

**derekmorton** · 01-05-2018, 19:05

Gerald,

I would like to thank you for your effort in compiling this information.

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