The Soo Line Route by Dr. Ian Allen

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  • wcl
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 417

    #1

    The Soo Line Route by Dr. Ian Allen

    I seen a lot of stuff about this route, but one can't seem to find it anywhere.....Where could one find this route??

    Thanks
  • crstagg
    4500 Post Veteran


    • Nov 1999
    • 4885
    • Huntsville, AL
    • Texan
    • MSOR

    #2
    Originally posted by wcl
    I seen a lot of stuff about this route, but one can't seem to find it anywhere.....Where could one find this route??

    Thanks
    Was available in the MLT-Downloads section on the MOPhouse forum, but that forum no longer exists.

    You might PM frankoburns to see if he has a file copy. BUT I recommend you wear a welders helmet when you read his reply.
    Charles

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    • wcl
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 417

      #3
      Okay...Thank you

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      • CPTrainman59R
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2004
        • 427
        • Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada.

        #4
        I'm glad I don't live next door to Frank.

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        • ossie
          1000 Post Veteran and Moderator



          • May 2010
          • 1298
          • Melbourne, Australia
          • MSOR

          #5
          Originally posted by CPTrainman59R
          I'm glad I don't live next door to Frank.
          Frank's got a great view of the train tracks and a pro-active approach to pest control. I can think of worse neighbourhoods to live in.
          Cheers!
          Pete

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          • crstagg
            4500 Post Veteran


            • Nov 1999
            • 4885
            • Huntsville, AL
            • Texan
            • MSOR

            #6
            Originally posted by CPTrainman59R
            I'm glad I don't live next door to Frank.
            Frank is glad too!
            Charles

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            • R. Steele
              3500 Post Veteran

              • Feb 2013
              • 3928
              • known universe
              • ORTS

              #7
              Thank goodness for Frank, his approach to pest control, his neighborhood, and world famous recipes for worms.
              Cheers, Gerry
              "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
              It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
              Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
              Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

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              • opskeeper
                Senior Member

                • May 2010
                • 149
                • PDX Ore
                • English, Yooper
                • DTG

                #8
                I am going to add some real help here.
                No You can not get that route any more. The creator of that route pulled it long before the Mophhouse site went down. People were too needy, and it did have at the time of it's release a bit of different way to install, and so the creator had enough. I know for a fact, because in the Windows 7 upgrade, I moved the Soo Route, & another fantastic route the "Chicago Great Western" route to a Desktop Hard drive, and when I went to put it back into the Computer, low and behold the hard drive, made a grinding noise, and that was game, set, match. A dark day indeed. But such is life.......

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                • bwbrgb
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 441
                  • Ontario, Canada
                  • General

                  #9
                  I believe that was " SOO ver 1.1 " and Frank made a fix for it also , if memory serves right . Ask Frank about it .

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                  • R. Steele
                    3500 Post Veteran

                    • Feb 2013
                    • 3928
                    • known universe
                    • ORTS

                    #10
                    I have the SOO route ( I really like the route, very nice little gem, however, my only critique is Dr. Allen laid track like a drunken sailor on a roller coaster ride)
                    I looked in the docs folder and there is a folder entitled "Permission" with the following README_FIRST.txt

                    THE SOO LINE v1.1

                    All objects placed in this route were NOT created by me.

                    You will need Scale rail, and scale road to run this route.

                    I would like to thank the creators of the freeware Cajon Pass, MONON-2,Chicagoland, Conrail indy and the fine people who uploaded their objects at trainsim.com
                    their hard earned efforts in making great objects for placement made this route successful thank you. Once again I only placed objects they've created into my route.

                    This route is a stand alone and has been demexed, and mosaiced. It is highly accurate and detailed (NOT intended for lower end systems), as far as track placement, towns and such are concerned
                    THIS ROUTE IS SUMMER ONLY!! until i can figure out how to make my mosaic tiles snow ready!!

                    I hope you enjoy this route as much as I do!!! Let me know what you think about it in the mophouse SOO thread.

                    There will be only 1 update from me in the near future with seasonal textures. Unless someone knows how, if thats the case they have my permission to update this route.
                    ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO EXPAND THIS ROUTE HAS MY PERMISSION, just make sure its scale rail and road please. I left a maker file in so that you can finnish the IAIS sub leaving davenport. 2 miles worth


                    I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS TO YOUR SYSTEM IF IT BREAKS DOWN!!

                    Thank You,

                    Dr. Ian Allen
                    My reading is this:
                    Dr. Allen does not explicitly prevent anyone from uploading this route, nor does he give explicit permission, however, he does give explicit permission to update or expand the route.

                    Can someone update the route using TSRE, and release it again? I believe so -- of course with all credit to Dr. Allen.
                    IMO since Dr. Allen does not explicitly deny permission to upload the route and gives permission to anyone to update or expand the route, he was, in effect, giving permission to share the route, or upload it to a library.

                    So...what's the verdict???
                    Last edited by R. Steele; 12-09-2017, 00:34.
                    Cheers, Gerry
                    "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
                    It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
                    Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
                    Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

                    https://www.trainsim.com/forums/filedata/fetch?filedataid=79656&type=medium​ https://www.trainsim.com/forums/filedata/fetch?filedataid=79654&type=small

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                    • ossie
                      1000 Post Veteran and Moderator



                      • May 2010
                      • 1298
                      • Melbourne, Australia
                      • MSOR

                      #11
                      I agree Gerry. That's a "go-ahead" if ever I've seen one... and no bias from me as it's not a route I have any use for.
                      Cheers!
                      Pete

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                      • Don6218
                        1500 Post Veteran
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 1834
                        • Oshawa ON

                        #12
                        By the sounds of it he was giving permission to Update and/or Modernize this route with only the couple of specifics. He also had the foresight to include the Marker File as well.

                        Looks like it should be a go.

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                        • geepster775
                          2500 Post Veteran


                          • Sep 2006
                          • 2846
                          • .
                          • General

                          #13
                          Originally posted by R. Steele
                          laid track like a drunken sailor on a roller coaster ride


                          Yep, that's a common feature of freeware (and some payware) from that era. I think they all got together in the same room to work on their routes and someone brought a couple of cases with them for every get-together.
                          My Open Rails videos https://www.youtube.com/@lakecities3663/videos

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