Diesels West Locos

[wcl]

How does one get these to work in open rails??

Thank You

[R. Steele]

Easily enough, usually they work outta the box quite well...you do have to adjust some parameters that are not optimized for OR.
Exactly what is the difficulty...specifics please and screenshots (that are large enough to be viewed) and an OR log would help myself or anyone else inclined to help.

[wcl]

They just don't show up in the game itself...I can't even make a consist with them in the game

[ossie]

If you can't make a consist, that isn't an ORTS issue. I use DW locos a lot with Conbuilder and ORTS and have never had a the problem you are describing.

What consist editor are you using? If they're not showing up there, I assume you can't get them to run in MSTS either? Which specific DW locos are you using? Have you got your locos folders set up correctly, ie, are they in the folder itself or a sub folder the consist editor isn't reading? There's a bunch of reasons they mightn't be showing up but we need more info to help you.

[R. Steele]

They just don't show up in the game itself...I can't even make a consist with them in the game

AS Peter said, you need another program to make consists, like
ConBuilder [payware]>>>http://www.conbuilder.com/
Goku's TRES Consist program [free] >>> http://koniec.org/tsre5/, goto downloads link on front page and get "TSRE5_v0.69.exe"
Yardmaster >>> yardmaster2_5.zip here in library [free]

Once you've setup the consist program, it will provide you with a means to make consists from your TRAINSET folder (containing engines and wagons) which is a subfolder of your TRAINS folder. The consist will then be saved/stored in the CONSISTS folder, also a subfolder of your TRAINS folder. OR will then be able to load the consist and you can use it to explore a route or make activities with it and other consists.

[wcl]

Wasn't conbuilder free?? Is their a site that has it for free somewhere??

[wwhall]

Conbuilder has not been free for a long time. Goku's consist builder is free and is a good program. That said, there are things that it won't do that Conbuilder will, and vice versa. I have both and I use both. The consist program in MSTS itself is worthless, in my opinion.

I have most of DW's releases and they all work in OpenRails. The biggest issue with them in OpenRails--as is the case with almost all MSTS content--is that the smoke parameters have to be adjusted to look right in OR. There are utilities out there that will do that "automatically," but I prefer to do it myself.

[eric]

It's also fairly easy to build consists using Notepad...

Just take a consist you have, and start changing around the values in the WagonData and EngineData lines:

SIMISA@@@@@@@@@@JINX0D0t______

Train (
	TrainCfg ( "Metra_Demo"
		Name ( "Metra_Demo" )
		Serial ( 1 )
		MaxVelocity ( 49.17440 0.41078 )
		NextWagonUID ( 14 )
		Durability ( 1.00000 )
		Engine (
			UiD ( 5 )
			EngineData ( EngineName FolderName)
		)
		Wagon (
			WagonData ( CarName FolderName)
			UiD ( 7 )
		)
		Wagon (
			WagonData ( AnotherCarName AnotherFolderName)
			UiD ( 8 )
		)
		Engine (
			Flip ( )
			UiD ( 11 )
			EngineData ( EngineName FolderName)
		)
	)
)

[wcl]

Well I found my copy of it form the back in the day....Now when I make a consist with a DW loco in Conbuilder, it dont shot up in open rails locomotive tab

[rdayt]

ConBuilder won't write to the trains folder if it's in any "Programs" folder.
Check your MSTS install and make sure it's not using the default "Programs x86" install location.
I use the old ConBuilder and have no issues.
Even though Conbuilder is payware now, the original EULA allows the older versions to be freely distributed. In case anybody's interested.

Steve

[slipperman]

Hi wcl,
First, the good news - as ConBuilder has , presumably, successfully created a consist, it likely that you have the correct MSTS folder/file hierarchy set up.
Secondly, the reason it doesn't show in Open Rails may be because you haven't "told" OR about the installation in which you've created the consist. Use the Options button, then the Content tab; select Add, then locate the installation's path and give it a unique name.

Cheers,
Ged

[crstagg]

Another likely reason is you have your MSTS installation in one of the Program Files folders or in one of the Users folders and ConBuilder cannot overcome the Windows (7 t0 10) security so the saved files are stored in another location. If you did not install MSTS using the procedure at Steam-4-Me, you will continue to have this problem no matter what consist editor you use.

[wcl]

I had to run conbuilder as run as administrator and got it to work...thank you for all the help on this....greatly appreciated