Open Rails suddenly not working

[Marc87dk]

I have a feeling its gonna be difficult finding a solution to this, as there is actually no error message involved.

The problem started a few weeks ago. For some odd reason, Open Rails suddenly stopped working for me. I can access the menu and everything just fine, but once I load a route, I get the loading screen for that particular route for about 30 seconds and then the window closes and I am sent back to the menu. No error messages about a crash or anything. I am just thrown back to the menu.
I have tried testing every single route, including the 6 routes that came with MSTS, and its the same thing.
I tried opening the routes in MSTS, and I had no issues, other than the simulator itself being EXTREMELY laggy.

I re-installed MSTS and Open Rails, and the problem did not go away.
Then I simply tried doing a system restore on my computer, especially because I had experienced some boot errors, so I was thinking that could be somehow related to it.
So I did a system restore, and Open Rails came back to life... until today. Now I am back to the exact same problem. Route loads, nothing happens, gets sent back to menu.
I do not have any boot errors now. The only other "symptom" my computer has is that my keyboard commands do not respond when I am downloading or installing something. So I checked my processor to see if something was wrong there. No errors.
Checked for viruses and malware. No errors.
Checked every component and hardware on my computer. Graphics card, discs etc. No errors.

My last option now is to do a re-install of Windows and hope for a miracle. But I am still not sure whether this has anything to do with the problems I am experiencing with Open Rails.
I have absolutely no idea what it can be.

Could my graphics card or CPU be dying without showing any other symptoms? It just seems odd, cause I had this computer for 3 years only, and the only "graphic heavy" game I have been running has been Open Rails.

Any advice for me?

Here are my specs, if they are any help to you.

Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3350P CPU @ 3.10GHz
Manufacturer: Intel
Speed: 3.1 GHz
Number of Cores: 4

Video Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 640
Dedicated Memory: 3.0 GB
Total Memory: 4.0 GB
Pixel Shader Version: 5.0
Vertex Shader Version: 5.0
Hardware T & L: Yes
Driver Version 21.21.13.7654

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 (build 15063), 64-bit
Service Pack: 0
Size: 64-bit
Edition: NVIDIA
Version: 10.0.15063

BIOS: P11-A3
Version: American Megatrends Inc. P11-A3
Manufacturer: American Megatrends Inc.

Drive 1
Size: 451.6 GB
Free Memory: 372.6 GB
Drive 2
Size: 458.5 GB
Free Memory: 246.4 GB
Drive 3
Size: 459.0 GB
Free Memory: 245.2 GB
Drive 4
Size: 450.7 GB
Free Memory: 217.6 GB
Drive 5
Size: 100.0 MB
Free Memory: 57.5 MB

[Vince]

Open rails log please?

[crstagg]

Before you uninstalled and reinstalled ANYTHING you should have opened ORTS to the menu and made sure "Logging" box had a check mark (Logging is located to left of start button below Options button) then run OR. After it crashed then look for the file on your desktop named "OpenRailsLog.txt" Open the file and look for problems or Zip up the file and attach it to a post here. (that is what Vince is asking for)

FYI MSTS will crash like that when you try to run a route created recently with an OLD Tsection.dat file in the Global folder. Most Route readme.txt will tell you which Tsection or newer is required.

[Marc87dk]

Uninstalled and re-installed. This time I made sure the logging box has been checked.

Loading TRK TDB SIGCFG DAT ACT RDB

Warning: Track node 1463 pin 0 has invalid link to track node 0 in D:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\ROUTES\PT_Berlin_Dresden_2012\PT_Berlin_ Dresden_2012.rdb:line 11437

CARSPAWN SIGSCR sssssss W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) WWWWWWWWWW ENV SIGCFG SIGCFG TTYPE

Error: Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.ThreadHangException: Thread 'Loader Process' has hung; the consistent stack trace is shown below:
at Microsoft.Win32.Win32Native.RegQueryValueEx(SafeRe gistryHandle hKey, String lpValueName, Int32[] lpReserved, Int32& lpType, Byte[] lpData, Int32& lpcbData)
at Microsoft.Win32.RegistryKey.InternalGetValue(Strin g name, Object defaultValue, Boolean doNotExpand, Boolean checkSecurity)
at Microsoft.Win32.RegistryKey.GetValue(String name)
at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceMonitor.GetData(Stri ng item)
at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounterLib.GetPerfor manceData(String item)
at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounterLib.get_Categ oryTable()
at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounterLib.GetCatego rySample(String category)
at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounterLib.GetCatego rySample(String machine, String category)
at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounterCategory.GetC ounterInstances(String categoryName, String machineName)
at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounterCategory.GetI nstanceNames()
at Orts.Viewer3D.Popups.HUDWindow..ctor(WindowManager owner) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Popup s\HUDWindow.cs:line 94
at Orts.Viewer3D.Viewer.Initialize() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Viewe r.cs:line 374
at Orts.Viewer3D.Viewer..ctor(Simulator simulator, Game game) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Viewe r.cs:line 289
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.Start (UserSettings settings, String acttype, String[] args) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\GameStateRunActivity.cs:line 288
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.<>c__ DisplayClass8.<Load>b__3() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\GameStateRunActivity.cs:line 150
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.Load( ) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\GameStateRunActivity.cs:line 190
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.LoaderProcess.Load() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\LoaderProcess.cs:line 158
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.LoaderProcess.DoLoad() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\LoaderProcess.cs:line 138
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.LoaderProcess.LoaderThread () in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\LoaderProcess.cs:line 109
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context( Object state)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionCon text executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()

ved Orts.Common.ORTraceListener.TraceEvent(TraceEventC ache eventCache, String source, TraceEventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args) i e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Common\Err orLogger.cs:linje 123
ved System.Diagnostics.TraceInternal.TraceEvent(TraceE ventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args)
ved System.Diagnostics.Trace.TraceError(String format, Object[] args)
ved Orts.Common.ORTraceListener.WriteLine(Object o) i e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Common\Err orLogger.cs:linje 205
ved System.Diagnostics.TraceInternal.WriteLine(Object value)
ved System.Diagnostics.Trace.WriteLine(Object value)
ved Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.WatchdogProcess.WatchdogTh read() i e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\WatchdogProcess.cs:linje 132
ved System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context( Object state)
ved System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionCon text executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
ved System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()

[Marc87dk]

Tried a different route. Same thing:

Error: Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.ThreadHangException: Thread 'Loader Process' has hung; the consistent stack trace is shown below:
at Microsoft.Win32.Win32Native.RegQueryValueEx(SafeRe gistryHandle hKey, String lpValueName, Int32[] lpReserved, Int32& lpType, Byte[] lpData, Int32& lpcbData)
at Microsoft.Win32.RegistryKey.InternalGetValue(Strin g name, Object defaultValue, Boolean doNotExpand, Boolean checkSecurity)
at Microsoft.Win32.RegistryKey.GetValue(String name)
at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceMonitor.GetData(Stri ng item)
at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounterLib.GetPerfor manceData(String item)
at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounterLib.get_Categ oryTable()
at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounterLib.GetCatego rySample(String category)
at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounterLib.GetCatego rySample(String machine, String category)
at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounterCategory.GetC ounterInstances(String categoryName, String machineName)
at System.Diagnostics.PerformanceCounterCategory.GetI nstanceNames()
at Orts.Viewer3D.Popups.HUDWindow..ctor(WindowManager owner) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Popup s\HUDWindow.cs:line 94
at Orts.Viewer3D.Viewer.Initialize() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Viewe r.cs:line 374
at Orts.Viewer3D.Viewer..ctor(Simulator simulator, Game game) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Viewe r.cs:line 289
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.Start (UserSettings settings, String acttype, String[] args) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\GameStateRunActivity.cs:line 288
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.<>c__ DisplayClass8.<Load>b__3() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\GameStateRunActivity.cs:line 150
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.Load( ) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\GameStateRunActivity.cs:line 190
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.LoaderProcess.Load() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\LoaderProcess.cs:line 158
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.LoaderProcess.DoLoad() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\LoaderProcess.cs:line 138
at Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.LoaderProcess.LoaderThread () in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\LoaderProcess.cs:line 109
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context( Object state)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionCon text executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()

ved Orts.Common.ORTraceListener.TraceEvent(TraceEventC ache eventCache, String source, TraceEventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args) i e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Common\Err orLogger.cs:linje 123
ved System.Diagnostics.TraceInternal.TraceEvent(TraceE ventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args)
ved System.Diagnostics.Trace.TraceError(String format, Object[] args)
ved Orts.Common.ORTraceListener.WriteLine(Object o) i e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\Orts.Simulation\Common\Err orLogger.cs:linje 205
ved System.Diagnostics.TraceInternal.WriteLine(Object value)
ved System.Diagnostics.Trace.WriteLine(Object value)
ved Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.WatchdogProcess.WatchdogTh read() i e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D\Proce sses\WatchdogProcess.cs:linje 132
ved System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context( Object state)
ved System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionCon text executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
ved System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()

[crstagg]

D:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\ROUTES\

https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/showthread.php?301693-Installing-MSTS-on-Win7-with-32-or-64-bits-OS

[qballbandit]

I have the same issue with OR where after running a few sessions on any new test version (or stable 1.2), that it starts the activity load, but fails. The only thing I have run across that saves my bacon is a warm shutdown, a warm start (or simply wait until the next day after a clean boot), delete my OR folder, re-install the latest test version, and I am good again for another few days.
Rinse and repeat.

[Marc87dk]

It works again... for now at least. I tried taking out my second harddrive, which for some reason made it work... Or it may be because I rebooted and re-installed OR as qballbandit suggested.
I guess I will find out in a few days.

[geepster775]

What size power supply do you have? With 5 hard drives, you may be running into a provisioning problem that is underpowering certain peripherals. The older the power supply gets, and the more hours it is on, as the capacitors age, it begins to require more power to run the same hardware load.

[csantucci]

First of all, it is better if you attach the full logfile, and not only copy and past a part here. Attaching the full file provides more info to people trying to help.
The "Thread hang Exception" you get means that your computer performs too slowly in loading the activity, and so the internal watchdog stops loading and returns to the OR menu.

[mikeebb]

First of all, it is better if you attach the full logfile, and not only copy and past a part here. Attaching the full file provides more info to people trying to help.
The "Thread hang Exception" you get means that your computer performs too slowly in loading the activity, and so the internal watchdog stops loading and returns to the OR menu.

Just a note: the file uploader won't allow transfer of a text file more than about 19.9KB. Nearly all OR logs with any errors or warnings exceed 20KB. It may be necessary to zip all attachments to messages (and, still, check the size), or paste the log file (within reason) into multiple messages. Or (if a member) ask the question at Elvas Tower where more of the OR people are present and where upload sizes are not so restricted.