Driving trams in Open Rails

[rwouters]

Hello to all,
I have read many comments about combined throttle/brake issues with locomotives. However, I hav'nt come across any
that have to do with trams. I have a number of trams in MSTS of the type that run in my home town. These trams have
a single throttle/brake lever and work perfectly with MSTS. Unfortunately not so in Open Rails. The "real life" trams don't
have air operated brakes so it's all electronics. Seeing as MSTS trams mimic the real thing perfectly in MSTS, I would like
to know what I need to do (edit eng files for example) to achieve the same result in Open Rails. I'm sure there are many
others who enjoy driving a tram so I'm hoping someone has a solution.
Thanks in advance, regards Robert Wouters.
Tram_throttle-brake_lever.jpg

[csantucci]

Where can I download a tram that has this problem in OR?

[rwouters]

Thanks for your reply
These are two trams and their respective download sites.
There are several other trams on the www.mstsrail.nl as well.
Regards - Robert Wouters.

RET Citadis tram (2003 to present vintage)

http://kerap.byethost10.com/materieel.html

Brake problem... From 50kmh to zero in two seconds!
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RET ZGT (1980's vintage)

http://www.mstsrail.nl/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=csacdrmlecq14m60ra61cggrt4&action=downloads;cat=90

RETtramtypeZGTv1-1.exe
Brake problem... brakes are ineffective!
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These are trams that operate (or once operated) on the Rotterdam
Electric Tram network known simply as RET.

[slipperman]

Hi Robert,
Using the HTM_Regio_Citadis HTM4001A, from about 50kph to a standstill took about 44 seconds. This was using the default Tokyo route. However, I have to agree with you regarding the ZGT - it just wouldn't stop!!

Cheers,
Ged

[csantucci]

In the ZGT file ret701a.eng there is an error at line 48:
It should not be
SystemType( "EP" )
It should be
BrakeSystemType( "EP" )
With this correction the tram brakes correctly. I expect that also the other .eng files of the ZGT trams have these error.

[rwouters]

In the ZGT file ret701a.eng there is an error at line 48:
It should not be
SystemType( "EP" )
It should be
BrakeSystemType( "EP" )
With this correction the tram brakes correctly. I expect that also the other .eng files of the ZGT trams have these error.

Hello Mr. Santucci,
The correction you suggested has indeed solved the braking problem, not only with the ZGT trams but also with the other trams
that had this "bug". It's now a joy to run these models in Open Rails. Just wondering though... Is there also such a "simple" solution
to the behaviour of the combined throttle/brake lever. Using the mouse to move the lever forward to accelerate works fine but moving
it back, the lever will only return to the intermediate (zero) acceleration position. To brake, you have to press the "a" key! It's not an
a major issue but if there's a fix then I would like to correct that too.

I really appreciate the help you've given me. Grazie mille (Thank you very much).
Regards - Robert Wouters.

[rwouters]

Hello Mr. Santucci,
Your advice has indeed solved the braking problem - BrakeSystemType( "EP" ).
The ZGT tram as well as other trams by the same author now brake the way they should.
Good of you to help me with this problem. Grazie mille (Thank you very much).
Regards - Robert Wouters

[csantucci]

For the mouse problem, try replacing orts.simulation.dll in release x.3582 with the one you can download from here http://www.interazioni-educative.it/...lation.dll.zip , and check carefully whether this solves the problem.

[rwouters]

I downloaded Orts.Simulation.dll and placed it in the Open Rails root folder after
first having renamed the previous version to Orts.Simulation_dll_older_version.
Original dll version: v0.0.6231.39148
Replaced with dll: v0.0.6345.39827
Open Rails version 1.2.3766

After re-booting my pc, I started Open Rails and selected a route.
Unfortunately this resulted in an error message both in MSTS routes run in Open Rails
as well as the demo Open Rails route "Scottish Capital Express".

After switching back to the original Orts.Simulation.dll, there were no error messages!
Thanks anyway. Regards - Robert.
Error_message.jpg

[csantucci]

Sorry, you must replace the above file in experimental release x.3852 (or 3853) and not in stable version x.3766. (I wrongly wrote x.3582).