Is there any way to disable the Raildriver in OR?

[Django456]

Hello everyone!

I hope that anybody can help me.
I will use the Raildriver in OpenRails but i will use it with a Tool from German Site called "RDtrainfix".
My Problemn is every Time i try to use the RD, OpenRails takes Control over the Raildriver and it is not possible to use that great Tool.
Also my Question is, is there any chance to disable the Raildriver in OpenRails, or have anyone from this Forum use "RDTrainfix" with OpenRails and can tell me how to?

Thanks for your Help and sorry fpr my bad English!:-)

[EricF]

RD Trainfix is just for adapting the RailDriver to MSTS in Windows Vista and later. It's not needed for, nor will it work with Open Rails and the RailDriver.

RailDriver support is pre-programmed in Open Rails. The programming was done quite a while ago and it's not perfect, but it works. There are a couple of significant bugs -- bail-off of the independent brake doesn't work right, and if a locomotive's bell is triggered and locked on when you sound the horn, the only way to turn the bell back off is by using the "B" key on the computer keyboard. The "Bell" button on the RailDriver only turns it off and on by itself -- it can't cancel the automatic bell trigger. I registered a bug report for those two problems. In time, it might be fixed, but that's probably not a priority for the OR team right now.

To get the RailDriver working with Open Rails, you need to run the calibrator utility from PI Engineering, and then put a copy of the calibration file into the your main MSTS "Train Simulator" and also in the "Train Simulator" folder of any mini-routes you might have. Otherwise, Open Rails will use a built-in default calibration which probably won't work very well.

In any case, there's no way to re-map the RailDriver's buttons in Open Rails. I mostly follows the RailDriver's default MSTS layout.

I recently published a blog entry about the RailDriver and Open Rails. If you can't find the instructions to generate the calibration file in the installation guide that should be included when you download OR, you can also find a summary in my article here.

[django9898]

Thank you for your answer!
My Problem is that the RD is not working correctly for me.
I have calibrate the RD as described in the instructions and than i copy calibration file in the main msts folder.
I start OR amd select the Route ( Pro Train 27 Add on )
When the Route has loaded the RD Display shows "---" now i press the on/off Button on the RD and the Display shows "000" i think everything works fine, but when i try to use one of the Sticks like the Reverser sometimes its works and seconds later he does nothing.
I have not figured out how to start the train. ( BR 628 Diesel Loco)
The RDTrainfix Tool works fine for me in MSTS but i love Openrails and his new Features becuse i can not imagine play a Train Sim without the Raildriver.
I know that the RD works with OR but i can't solve the problem and i hope you can help me.

[django9898]

No one can help?

Should the calibration File also be copied into the Pro Train Addon folder?

It does not matter with which locomotive I drive( Electric, Diesel etc.) or have i adjust the Locomotive Type somewhere?

And there is really no way to prevent that Openrails taking control of the Raildriver like delete or tweak a .dll File or something else?

Have forgiveness for my less perfect english!:-)

[R. Steele]

No one can help?

Should the calibration File also be copied into the Pro Train Addon folder?

It does not matter with which locomotive I drive( Electric, Diesel etc.) or have i adjust the Locomotive Type somewhere?

And there is really no way to prevent that Openrails taking control of the Raildriver like delete or tweak a .dll File or something else?

Have forgiveness for my less perfect english!:-)

Can you provide us with a screenshot of where you copied the RD calibration file? I'm thinking you got it in the wrong place.
You probably need to download the Installation Guide found here >>> http://openrails.org/download/program/ >>> Right hand side of page - Under Testing Version - down near the bottom of the page. See Page 16 - How to use RailDriver with Open Rails


Also have you read Eric's article [ post #2 ]? found here >>> http://msts-roundhouse.vnxglobal.com...ldriver-review
Especially beginning with this part:
"The Open Rails setup documents have a section which describes how to calibrate the RailDriver for OR, and how to provide the resulting calibration file for OR to recognize it. Here’s the step-by-step in a somewhat clearer form"

[R. Steele]

...Have forgiveness for my less perfect english!:-)

Believe me, the truest path is to have some sort of forgiveness for EVERYTHING in this cockamamie world
(Synonyms for cockamamie: goofy, sappy, silly, wacky, whacky, zany)

[django9898]

Ok, i will make a Screenshot tomorrow when i am back from work.
Many thanks for the support!

[EricF]

One hint I can give is to make a brand-new calibration file instead of using a prior one. Also, be sure to place each control where the calibrator utility tells you, and take your fingers off of the control before clicking the on-screen button. Pushing the controls against their limits or moving them even a little can cause errors in the calibration file.

And of course, make sure that the "ModernCalibration.rdm" file gets placed in the main "Train Simulator" folder. For instance, my path is "D:\MSTS\Train Simulator" and the calibration file is dropped right into the "Train Simulator" folder alongside all the MSTS files.

Also, pay close attention to the throttle calibration. You might have problems with setting it in the idle position and getting an out-of-range error from the calibration program. If this happens -- and it seems to be fairly common with either newer RailDriver units or with newer versions of Windows -- you should cancel out of the calibration and then close and re-open the calibrator. Before starting again, click on the “Help” menu item and “About”. Then, click on the “Copyright” line in the description text to unlock the bounds limits. You’ll get a confirmation message. Then you can go back through the calibration with no problems. Even if you don't get errors while calibrating, doing the "unlock bounds limits" hidden trick seems to let you calibrate the throttle and dynamic brakes more closely around the neutral detent -- which works better in Open Rails.

If your RailDriver's LED display goes from "---" to "000" then it's definitely communicating with Open Rails, so that's a good sign. You might want to unplug it from the USB port briefly and then plug it back in if you haven't in a while, just to make sure its internal controller is reset and restarted. (I leave mine unplugged from the computer when I'm not using it because it tends to prevent the computer from going to sleep otherwise, so it's always just started up when I use it. Like most computer devices, a restart once in a while is good.)

[Django456]

First thank you all for your time to help me!
The raildriver now appears to be calibrated, but i can't move the Train :-(
I have unlocked all brakes but he does not move!
I recorded a video, maybe you can tell me what I do wrong.

https://youtu.be/76w6ZNCvjDU

Thanks again for your great support!

[EricF]

The controls all appear to be working in your video except for the throttle -- the engine RPM's aren't advancing at all, and obviously, no movement. Does the locomotive work if you use the keyboard to control the throttle?

Also, have you tried testing with one of the MSTS default locomotives, such as the default Dash9? Try that and see what happens; the Dash9 is locomotive the RailDriver was (somewhat) patterned for. Testing that will tell us if your RailDriver is working with what's accepted as a default .eng file.

Also, for troubleshooting, it helps to tap the F5 key to bring up the basic status HUD. It will show how the sim sees the key control settings -- throttle position, brake percentage, reverser setting etc. -- so it's quick to see if the locomotive is responding to the controls correctly or not.

[django9898]

Ok, thanks!
II will try your suggestions at the weekend when I am back from work, until then thank you very much.

[Django456]

Now it works!
I think it was because I only Shift + z had to press and now it works!
Thanks for your help.
I have one more question.
Is there a possibility to change the display on the raildriver of mph in km / h?

[hotti1]

Is there a possibility to change the display on the raildriver of mph in km / h?

I'm also looking for the possibility at the Raildriver to adjust that it displays km/h instead of mph (for OpenRails)

Best regards from Germany,
Mike

[R. Steele]

It is known that to change the routes UoM from mph to kph ( or visa versa ) you change the parameter in the routes .trk file.

)
	TerrainErrorScale ( 1 )
	RouteStart ( -12401 14270 -69.809 -731.066 )
	MilepostUnitsMiles ( )
	MaxLineVoltage ( 0 )
	DefaultSignalSMS ( signal.sms )
	DefaultCrossingSMS ( crossing.sms )
	DefaultWaterTowerSMS ( wtower.sms )
	DefaultCoalTowerSMS ( ctower.sms )
	DefaultDieselTowerSMS ( dtower.sms )
	TempRestrictedSpeed ( 8.9408 )
)

So the above code MilepostUnitsMiles would read as MilepostUnitsKilometers (not italicized of course)
If RailDriver is getting the speed UoM data from the trk file, then that would be where the change should be made. I do not know if this is correct, I'm guessing.

Also you may want to look at the sigcfg file, converting the signaling speed limits in the sigcfg.dat file to KPH.
[excerpt from another thread]
"Open the file in your text editor and locate all of the SpeedMPH entries. Change them to SpeedKPH with an appropriately translated speed value."

[hotti1]

Hello R.Steele,

thank you for your answer, your statement does not lead to the expected effect on raildrivers LED. Thats why i asked for a solution

"SpeedKPH" in my sigcfg.dat (see attached picture) and "MilepostUnitsKilometers" in my trk file (see below) will only work for the HUD, but the raildriver LED does not change the mph notification to kph.
sigcfg_speed.jpg

	TerrainErrorScale ( 0.5 )
	RouteStart ( -5724 14768 855 457 )
	MilepostUnitsKilometers ( )
	MaxLineVoltage ( 15000 )

Perhaps it was forgotten to program in the implementation of the raildriver interface.

Excuse my terrible English.

Regards,
Mike