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  • dkingsburg
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 564
    • Cabot, Arkansas
    • MSOR

    #1

    Tracks in the air


    I'm using OR and all my Routes and Activities Run Fine. Much Smoother and more Realistically than with MSTS.
    However all of my Maple Leaf Tracks Routes, Mactier, Streamlines ATSF Seligman, BNSF Seligman 2.0, Marias Pass 5,
    and Howard all Have the Tracks Suspended!
    I have all the Original Routes Installed and the Original Marias Pass Runs Fine. I have Whitefish 7, P&WV, M&M, W&A,
    Tallahassee, Florida Funnel and Cheyenne Installed and they Run Fine with no Suspended Track.
    Is something Missing or is it an OR Issue?
    Help!!!!!
    Thankyou,
    DaveKfromUP
  • Vince
    6500 Post Veteran

    • Nov 1999
    • 6961
    • Mohave

    #2
    Could be problems with terrtex, or tile files as terrain and track are differend databases. Could you post a picture of the problem and it'll probably save a thousand words. Please post the OR log that goes with the picture you attach. Thanks.
    regards,
    ............Vince ..............
    ...... Author NECv4 .......
    .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
    ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

    On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
    "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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    • R. Steele
      3500 Post Veteran

      • Feb 2013
      • 3928
      • known universe
      • ORTS

      #3
      Had a similiar problem awhile ago, turned out to be some missing/corrupt .raw files.
      Vince is right, need the OR log from the route having the problem to see if any warnings or errors point to the culprit.
      Cheers, Gerry
      "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
      It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
      Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
      Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

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      • dkingsburg
        Senior Member
        • May 2010
        • 564
        • Cabot, Arkansas
        • MSOR

        #4
        I didn't see anything in the OR Log. Basically in Views 1, 2 ,3, 4, 5, 8, Either you can Look down and see Terrain Below the Track Level or the Trees and Scenery Objects such as Signal Boxes Ect. Bridge Abutments are below Track Level and it's Like the Tracks are suspended above
        Everything.
        DaveKfromUP

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        • muskokaandtahoe
          3000 Post Veteran

          • Apr 2003
          • 3003
          • Silicon Valley, CA, USA.
          • ORTS

          #5
          How far below? Terrain falling below the tracks by, oh, lets say up to 1m is just a lazy track layer at work. But when the entire tile is 100m down you have a completely different problem.
          Dave Nelson
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          • Vince
            6500 Post Veteran

            • Nov 1999
            • 6961
            • Mohave

            #6
            Lets get something straight first David; You ask for help then jerk me and others around not providing requested information?

            Is there a problem making/posting screen shot and log? If there is please say so and I can help you with that too!

            I never ask for information for fun or to annoy you. I ask because I and the community need to look at it to assist you!
            So why don't you please provide what is needed to help you?

            So now again, with a bit more passion, I again respectfully request that you:
            P L E A S E P L E A S E post the OR log! and ...
            P L E A S E P L E A S E post a screen shot!
            We need this even if you think we don't. Please?

            best regards,
            ............Vince ..............
            ...... Author NECv4 .......
            .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
            ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

            On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
            "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
            the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
            I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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            • R. Steele
              3500 Post Veteran

              • Feb 2013
              • 3928
              • known universe
              • ORTS

              #7
              I've been struggling with this one on the Buffalo Route (most recent one that uses the templates on the Skyline's site). The OR log shows a tile missing _ one I cannot find, even though I've downloaded the route again - I'm still troubleshooting it. When Dave mentioned his problem, I wondered if this one is similar??

              Code:
              Information: Allocation for 49,999 particles:
              
                    7,999,840 B RAM vertex data
                    1,199,976 B RAM index data (temporary)
                    7,999,840 B VRAM DynamicVertexBuffer
                    1,199,976 B VRAM IndexBuffer
              
              Warning: Ignoring missing tile F:\2TSF\Buffalo Template\ROUTES\Buffalo\TILES\-04BCBD60.t
              
              TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTWSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS TRP(default) S(repeats) SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
              bandicam 2016-11-25 15-12-20-427.jpg

              Complete OR log BuffaloLog.zip
              Cheers, Gerry
              "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
              It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
              Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
              Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

              https://www.trainsim.com/forums/filedata/fetch?filedataid=79656&type=medium​ https://www.trainsim.com/forums/filedata/fetch?filedataid=79654&type=small

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              • Vince
                6500 Post Veteran

                • Nov 1999
                • 6961
                • Mohave

                #8
                You may be able to generate a new tile with the RGE.
                For a change the MSTS Help file for adding tiles is well written and easy to understand. Almost walks you through the process.

                regards,
                ............Vince ..............
                ...... Author NECv4 .......
                .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
                ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

                On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
                "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
                the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
                I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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                • R. Steele
                  3500 Post Veteran

                  • Feb 2013
                  • 3928
                  • known universe
                  • ORTS

                  #9
                  Thanks Vince, I will look into that.
                  Cheers, Gerry
                  "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
                  It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
                  Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
                  Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

                  https://www.trainsim.com/forums/filedata/fetch?filedataid=79656&type=medium​ https://www.trainsim.com/forums/filedata/fetch?filedataid=79654&type=small

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                  • dkingsburg
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 564
                    • Cabot, Arkansas
                    • MSOR

                    #10
                    I'm not sure how to Download the Log or Take & Post a Screen Shot. I Explained what the Problem was in Great Detail.
                    I Discovered that when I reinstall the Problem Routes the Problem goes away.
                    Most of them we're Installed before I Installed OR and the Problem Showed up when I Operated them in OR.
                    Now that I Have Reinstalled them the Problem is Gone.
                    DaveKfromUP

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                    • Vince
                      6500 Post Veteran

                      • Nov 1999
                      • 6961
                      • Mohave

                      #11
                      Hi Dave,
                      Glad you got it resolved.
                      As to your question on the log. If you have 'Logging' checked on the Open Rails opening screen each time you run a route in OR a log named OpenRailsLog.txt will be placed on your desktop. You attach this text file to your post using the Manage Attachments button on the advanced post screen. You know, the Go Advanced button down near the bottom of the screen you see every time you make a post.
                      Attaching a screen shot is a bit more involved and I generally have a tough time keeping the picture under the 100KB size limit.
                      I invite other members to chime in on this as it seems both Dave and I need assistance with preparing screenshots.

                      The OR screen shots are saved in *.png format to a folder that's listed guess where? In the log I spoke of earlier.
                      Run OR and then go look at that OR log text file on your desktop. You'll be amazed at the amount of info is there.

                      regards,
                      ............Vince ..............
                      ...... Author NECv4 .......
                      .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
                      ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

                      On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
                      "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
                      the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
                      I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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                      • pwillard
                        3000 Post Veteran



                        • Nov 1999
                        • 3070
                        • Cumming Ga
                        • ORTS

                        #12
                        I can easily find floating track in default route Marias Pass.
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                        • dkingsburg
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 564
                          • Cabot, Arkansas
                          • MSOR

                          #13
                          Hi Vince,
                          I know about the Logging Control. I don't always use it unless I have some sort of Problem. However I couldn't find anything in the Logging
                          Notice that Mentioned the Track Problem.Except for this Floating Track Problem I Really don't have any Major Problems with Running my Activities. Smooth, Realistic Operation with no Shuddering or Jerking. The Detail is there and Much More Defined than MSTS.
                          The Only other Thing I Notice is that the Number 3 View of the Rear of the Train is Shaky.
                          Thank you,
                          DaveKfromUP

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                          • geepster775
                            2500 Post Veteran


                            • Sep 2006
                            • 2846
                            • .
                            • General

                            #14
                            #3 view will be shaky as long as the camera is pointed at the short-wheelbase EOT. To tame the shake in OR, when in #3 view move the rear camera one car forward by pressing [Alt][Pg Up]
                            My Open Rails videos https://www.youtube.com/@lakecities3663/videos

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