Please Advice On Disappearing Tracks And Coaches

[sumit7tnp]

Dear Sir / Madam

Greetings.

Thanks you so much for your kind support.

This is Sumit Mehrotra.

I need your small help. In my Laptop Open Rail is running successfully , but the problem I am facing is , The Railway Tracks (Sometimes Train Coaches also) gets invisible during the play. Sometimes while pressing key 2 to key 3 immediately the coach disappers & within 1 to 2 seconds it comes back.

My Laptop Specs are Windows 8 (64 Bit) Core i5 3210M - 4 GB RAM - 500 GB HDD with Intel HD Graphics 4000. I don't have any time lag issue during gameplay. Only issue is the invisibility of tracks and Coaches in any route.

Please advice what settings I should Go for, so that the mentioned issue will get resolved.

Also I want to confirm one another thing which is mentioned below:

I want to use Train Store Application also in the same Laptop as for some routes Open Rails does not support the Tiles & hence scenery missing issue appears.
One problem with Train Store is that It changes the MSTS Main Folder by transferring its main files (Route , Consists & Trainset) to its own folder. So due to this Open Rails does not get all folders of MSTS and hence shows load errors in route and activities.
What Can be done in this case.
I think I should copy all MSTS files & make a separate folder (By the Name let say MSTS_2 or something different as compared to Main MSTS Folder). So Open Rail can access this & will find all MSTS files available at all time. At the same moment , Train Store can also work well by transferring files from Main MSTS Folder to its own Folder.

Please Please suggest me for the above mentioned queries.

I am eagerly waiting for your reply.

Thank You So Much.

With Best Regards
Sumit Mehrotra

[longiron]

Dear Sir / Madam

Greetings.

Thanks you so much for your kind support.

This is Sumit Mehrotra.

I need your small help. In my Laptop Open Rail is running successfully , but the problem I am facing is , The Railway Tracks (Sometimes Train Coaches also) gets invisible during the play. Sometimes while pressing key 2 to key 3 immediately the coach disappers & within 1 to 2 seconds it comes back.

My Laptop Specs are Windows 8 (64 Bit) Core i5 3210M - 4 GB RAM - 500 GB HDD with Intel HD Graphics 4000. I don't have any time lag issue during gameplay. Only issue is the invisibility of tracks and Coaches in any route.

Please advice what settings I should Go for, so that the mentioned issue will get resolved.

Sumit,
The only Open Rails app setting that may help with the 'lag' issue is VSync. Changing it to the refresh rate of your screen (usually 60 Hz in the US) helps minimize the load on your integrated graphics card.

Also I want to confirm one another thing which is mentioned below:

I want to use Train Store Application also in the same Laptop as for some routes Open Rails does not support the Tiles & hence scenery missing issue appears.
One problem with Train Store is that It changes the MSTS Main Folder by transferring its main files (Route , Consists & Trainset) to its own folder. So due to this Open Rails does not get all folders of MSTS and hence shows load errors in route and activities.
What Can be done in this case.
I think I should copy all MSTS files & make a separate folder (By the Name let say MSTS_2 or something different as compared to Main MSTS Folder). So Open Rail can access this & will find all MSTS files available at all time. At the same moment , Train Store can also work well by transferring files from Main MSTS Folder to its own Folder.

Sumit,
TrainStore was developed to bypass a limitation in the MSTS application - if you had too many routes, consists, trainsets the old MSTS application would not start. It just would hang or crash because it tried to load everything. Open Rails does not have this problem because it only loads the route, consists, etc, that it needs. If you are only using Open Rails to operate the game you can eliminate TrainStore.
Hope this helps.
chris

[geepster775]

So the disappearance of the track and rolling stock only lasts a few seconds after you change camera views between front and back?

Similar things happen even with the most potent of video cards when you change to an AI train via the dispatcher window. If the AI train is quite a distance away, it takes a few seconds to paint in the terrain and also paint the entire train in. Usually, only the lead loco only appears instantaneously. After a few seconds, everything comes in.

I don't understand why train store is necessary given Open Rails native ability to split up and whittle down overhead workload by allowing for individual profiles.

[qballbandit]

Another option that helped me early on when I had track and objects disappear, was to lower the sight distance to a more reasonable value. In other words, instead of the maximum value, lower it to 2500, 2200, 2100, and see if it resolves your issue.

[csantucci]

Sumit, can you attach the OpenRailsLog.txt file you get on the desktop? Simply run OR, wait that your cars and tracks disappear, exit OR, zip the OpenRailsLog.txt file and attach it here. The file can give advice about the cause of your problem.

[baldwin]

With only 4GB of ram, Intel HD Graphics 4000 and Windows 8, I suspect it is a page file issue rather than anything wrong with Open Rails.

[sumit7tnp]

open rail message.jpgOR1.jpgOR2.jpgOR3.jpgOR4.jpg

Dear Sirs

Thanks for your kind Reply.

While closing the Open rails during this issue of Invisibility, I quit the OR, then there is only one message which usually comes every time when i quit my Open Rails. The snapshot is attached. I have attached other snapshots also which show the settings which I currently have in my Open Rails simulation.

Kindly suggest what can be the root cause and how it can be solved.

(Viewing Distance I have set already as 2000 m.

Thanks

With Best Regards
Sumit Mehrotra

[csantucci]

Try unchecking "Automatically tune settings to keep performance level" and "Show shape warnings".
However take into account that file OpenRailsLog.txt that you have on the desktop provides more info than only the option windows.

The exception that you sometimes get when shutting OR is not a problem. Disregard it.

[sumit7tnp]

Dear Sir

I am attaching Log files and snapshot for your kind reference.
Log File 1- while Track was invisible.
Log File2 - when OR crashed during same activity start up.

Please advice.

Thank You so much.

With Kind Regards
Sumit Mehrotra

[sumit7tnp]

Dear Carlo Santucci Sir

Good Morning..!!!

Greetings.

I don't have words to say Thanks to You.

Your advice really worked for me. ie Unchecking of [ Automatically tune setting to keep performance level] & [Show shape warning].

The problem of invisibility of coaches and tracks are fully resolved.

But one issue i faced after that in the same activity that while saving the act by pressing key F2 ,OR crashing. I am attaching the log file for your kind reference.
Please have a look and suggest me what can be done.
However I feel very happy that invisibility issue is resolved.
Thank you so much for your kind support.

With Best Regards
Sumit Mehrotra

[csantucci]

Hello Sumit,
I don't see crashes in your logfile. Are you sure that you attached the logfile that you got just before the crash, and that you didn't overwrite it with a further OR session?
What I see in your logfile is a myriad of errors referring to missing sound files. You can find in your logfile many lines like following one
Warning: File ../../../ACELA/SOUND/x_acela_power_cruise1.wav missing from C:\MSTS IR2\trains\trainset\ASM - IR EMU\sound
Probably the .sms files that you have within ASM - IR EMU\sound are wrong.
Calls to ACELA sound files should be not done this way
../../../ACELA/SOUND/x_acela_power_cruise1.wav
but this way
../../ACELA/SOUND/x_acela_power_cruise1.wav
All these warning messages could create problems to OR operation.

[sumit7tnp]

Dear Carlo Santucci Sir

Thanks for your kind reply.
I will once again check the same.Will play the same act & monitor for the crash.

As you mentioned the warning messages , whether they create any problem in OR operation? As luckily I am able to play the game.

In the Same case, MSTS will never allow user to play.

Thanks to Open Rails...!!!!

Thank You.

With Best Regards
Sumit Mehrotra