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  • CSRX
    13500 Post Veteran



    • Oct 2005
    • 13646
    • Lincoln, ME
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    • ORTS

    #1

    3D Cabs

    Not sure if this topic has been posted about, and I apologize if it has. The search tool of this site isn't the best. Anyways, I am curious about 3d cabs, and how they are done for ORTS. What would the steps be, would it be basically just a shape file itself, or is it something I have to have extreme knowledge with?

    I've been debating on doing this for the CLP 802 I am working on, but just kind of stuck on the notion I guess.
    -Shawn K-
    MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
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  • crstagg
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    • Nov 1999
    • 4885
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    • MSOR

    #2
    Have you studied section 15.3 in the ORTS Manual? Have you purchased any of the OR engines with 3dcabs made by 3DTrains or Dekosoft? Section 15.3 contains a URL to a demo cab.

    FYI there is a video on the Dekosoft forum of their CSX Mainline Power set that includes views from the 3dCab.
    Last edited by crstagg; 08-02-2016, 20:35.
    Charles

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    • CSRX
      13500 Post Veteran



      • Oct 2005
      • 13646
      • Lincoln, ME
      • English
      • ORTS

      #3
      Reading over this section, and taking a look at the demo model. I have to be fairly honest, it looks like more effort than it's really worth. The locomotive I'm working with already has a "3d" cab modeled into the original shape file, While no 3d cabview option will be available. At least it already exists in the model.
      -Shawn K-
      MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
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      • crstagg
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        • Nov 1999
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        • MSOR

        #4
        Originally posted by CSRX
        Reading over this section, and taking a look at the demo model. I have to be fairly honest, it looks like more effort than it's really worth. The locomotive I'm working with already has a "3d" cab modeled into the original shape file, While no 3d cabview option will be available. At least it already exists in the model.
        ?? You logic doesn't make sense. If a 3dCab model already exists, then most of the work is already done.
        Charles

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        • CSRX
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          • Oct 2005
          • 13646
          • Lincoln, ME
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          • ORTS

          #5
          Originally posted by crstagg
          ?? You logic doesn't make sense. If a 3dCab model already exists, then most of the work is already done.
          Okay, I don't think you understand. So let me break it down for you. According to the manual, you must make your own shape file, separate from the original model itself. Even in the demo model provided, it shows this.
          However, the model I am using, has the 3d cabview of sorts, already modeled, into the original model. No separation.

          Hitting Alt 1 for the 3d cabview, halts with the message of saying unavailable. Which is fine by me. I then got thinking. Why not just place this shape file into the CABVIEW3D folder. Works, sort of, but then so doesn't a simple passenger view with this model.

          -Shawn K-
          MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
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          • crstagg
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            #6
            Did you add this section to the ENG file?
            ORTS3DCab(
            ORTS3DCabFile ( Cab.s )
            ORTS3DCabHeadPos ( -0.9 2.4 5.2 )
            RotationLimit ( 40 60 0 )
            StartDirection ( 12 0 0 )
            )


            Without those lines in the ENG file, you will get the message saying "unavailable."

            This is what a correctly created ORTS 3dCab looks like.
            3dcab.jpg and cab2.jpg
            FYI 3dCabs above come from ORTS add-ons by Dekosoft.

            BTW FWIW in the 3dCab one can see the windshield wipers moving back and forth.
            Last edited by crstagg; 08-03-2016, 12:46.
            Charles

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            • crstagg
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              • Nov 1999
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              #7
              For those that like first generation diesels, here is a 3dCab from 3DTrains ORTS Funit set. Note the different position of the windshield wiper in the 2 pictures.

              fcab1.jpg fcab2.jpg
              Last edited by crstagg; 08-04-2016, 12:23.
              Charles

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              • CSRX
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                • Oct 2005
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                #8
                Charles,
                Okay, I feel as if you are only reading bits and parts of what I say, and concluding your own statement.

                I did a test trial of exactly what the manual states. It works, but not as desired.

                This is perfectly okay, I don't need a 3d cabview honestly. The main model itself already has a cab set up in the original filing. As shown in the picture I posted.

                The "3d Cab not available" was before I even attempted the trial.

                Looking at the 3d cabs, yes, they look great. Though honestly, working 50+ hours a week, with a 3pm to 12am shift, sometimes all the way to 3am, and six days a week, working on the real deal, I have little time to put that much effort into something I'm barely going to run in a sim, because I run the real thing on a daily basis.

                I can deal without a 3d cab. Personally it's not that exciting for me anyways. I was just curious of how it goes, now I know. And I also know it obvious takes more effort than I am really desiring.
                -Shawn K-
                MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
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