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  • PennCentral1970
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    • Aug 2008
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    #1

    Replacement skies?

    Does anyone know where replacement / additional skies can be obtained for OR other than Elvas Tower? (My account with them lapsed and now I see they aren't taking new members).

    As I understand it, Kosmos is not compatible with OR so the dozens of skies I have for MSTS don't work with OR.
  • OTTODAD
    1
    • Feb 2001
    • 32344
    • England
    • General

    #2
    Sorry, but there are no easily usable ORTS skies which are as good or better than the KOSMOS ones, neither are the water and sound sources of driving over switches placed into tracks !

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    • R. Steele
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      • Feb 2013
      • 3928
      • known universe
      • ORTS

      #3
      Originally posted by PennCentral1970
      Does anyone know where replacement / additional skies can be obtained for OR other than Elvas Tower? (My account with them lapsed and now I see they aren't taking new members).

      As I understand it, Kosmos is not compatible with OR so the dozens of skies I have for MSTS don't work with OR.
      Any user can make replacement Clouds and SkyDome pngs - found in the Content Folder. I have been experimenting with them and getting some very nice results.

      There was a post where someone claimed to have Kosmos working with OR?? No other details were given.

      I just posted a couple of screenshots in the OR screenshot forum from the West Colton with experimental skies.

      Almost a certainty that when other more important issues are solved and someone comes along with an interest in coding weather into OR, it will happen. Weather or not (Yipes - a bad pun) Kosmos will ever be supported by OR is dependent on many factors.
      Cheers, Gerry
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      • OTTODAD
        1
        • Feb 2001
        • 32344
        • England
        • General

        #4
        Hi Gerry !

        Could you try and create my favorite Kosmos Day Time Summer Clouds version ?


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        • PennCentral1970
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          • Aug 2008
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          #5
          Originally posted by R. Steele
          Any user can make replacement Clouds and SkyDome pngs - found in the Content Folder. I have been experimenting with them and getting some very nice results.

          There was a post where someone claimed to have Kosmos working with OR?? No other details were given.

          I just posted a couple of screenshots in the OR screenshot forum from the West Colton with experimental skies.

          Almost a certainty that when other more important issues are solved and someone comes along with an interest in coding weather into OR, it will happen. Weather or not (Yipes - a bad pun) Kosmos will ever be supported by OR is dependent on many factors.
          It was your West Colton pics that prompted me to ask.

          Any chance you could post your skies to the File Library? I'd love to give them a try.

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          • R. Steele
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            • Feb 2013
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            • known universe
            • ORTS

            #6
            Originally posted by PennCentral1970
            It was your West Colton pics that prompted me to ask.

            Any chance you could post your skies to the File Library? I'd love to give them a try.
            Guys (and Gals?- you never know) I probably will put some in the library, but these just are not ready. They have some artifacts in them and if you get enough altitude the horizon boundary looks a little too rough and unfinished - they're not ready for prime time.

            There are some in the Elvas Library - Otto you're a member at ET, look here >>> downloads section \ category \ miscellaneous
            Last edited by R. Steele; 06-07-2016, 15:21.
            Cheers, Gerry
            "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
            It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
            Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
            Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

            https://www.trainsim.com/forums/filedata/fetch?filedataid=79656&type=medium​ https://www.trainsim.com/forums/filedata/fetch?filedataid=79654&type=small

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            • qballbandit
              6500 Post Veteran

              • Jan 2006
              • 6522
              • Elgin Il., USA.
              • MSOR

              #7
              Gerry,
              Thanks for working on some new versions. I have the 3 from Elvas, which makes for some variation at least.
              uli has also done some experimenting with the skydome, which make for some very nice results.
              Maybe he'll see this post and add to it.
              Neil

              Chicago Railroading Fan

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              • OTTODAD
                1
                • Feb 2001
                • 32344
                • England
                • General

                #8
                Originally posted by R. Steele
                There are some in the Elvas Library - Otto you're a member at ET.
                I have done that before and had a go at trying to modify them to look like those below but could not and there is my thread about it somewhere !

                http://www.elvastower.com/forums/ind...es-small-shed/

                http://www.elvastower.com/forums/ind...sky-texture-2/

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                • OTTODAD
                  1
                  • Feb 2001
                  • 32344
                  • England
                  • General

                  #9
                  Did not realise that this ET link showed Downloads !

                  So I downloaded the better one and installed it into the ORTS\Content folder for my MSTSBin DB-Tracks Wupper-11 and the Swiss Bernima copies of MSTS running in ORTS to use.

                  Their river and lakes water looks now better too !

                  WOW !

                  I am now happy to run my favorite MSTS routes in ORTS, being used to what the former did and enjoying the many improvements ORTS has added, helped by Carlo Santucci's recent ones and more to come from him and the team !







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                  • nicober
                    Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 39
                    • Quebec - Canada

                    #10
                    Good afternoon

                    I use my own system for the replacement of skies in ORTS. It`s just a simple system of batch files and I can easily change my skies of any routes just before starting ORTS. At this moment I use more than 50 different skies from the original OR, all HITW skies and many skies from my own images without any problem. And I can add many more if I desire. I just add my "Meteo folder" inside the main folder of ORTS. My "Meteo folder" contains all my skies in PNG format and of course a batch file (.BAT)of each one. If I want to return to the original OR sky, I have just to select Clouds01-0 and the original texture will be replaced.

                    I use it with the last stable version and also with a newer experimental version. The only disadvantage I have, is to put manually my "Meteo folder" with each version. And each time I have to change it, I need to move temporarily my "Meteo folder" outside the old version and when the new version is installed, I have to return my "Meteo folder" inside the main OR folder. Also I need to change the name of the newest version of OR to is old name "Program" to keep my batch file OK for working. Then I built a shortcut for each skies with JPG files and put it in my desktop to make my choice, I see all my different skies and it`s very easier to choice a new one before I launch ORTS.

                    Very easier to use and probably too simple to interest many people who probably prefer a stand alone progam but I`m not a modern programmer.

                    To Otto
                    Originally posted by OTODAD
                    Could you try and create my favorite Kosmos Day Time Summer Clouds version ?
                    What is the name of this sky texture? Is it a HITW Texture

                    My latest sky made today.

                    Open Rails 2016-06-07 06-57-03.jpg

                    Image taken on the new Whitefish 10 near Columbia Fall. I increase the color with OR commands.
                    In OR you can change your sky with the commands CRTL + ( = or - ) for fog and Shift + ( = or - ) for more or minus deep colors of your sky.

                    Plus I can change the night sky with an Aurora Borealis or a fantasist Star War Sky. Also the stars map must be change with my system.
                    Last edited by nicober; 06-07-2016, 20:43.

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                    • qballbandit
                      6500 Post Veteran

                      • Jan 2006
                      • 6522
                      • Elgin Il., USA.
                      • MSOR

                      #11
                      Good system you have, but I have to comment - and not in a mean way, that your "latest sky" picture doesn't look like any real sky from this planet. You have multiple suns, and skewed, oddly angled pieces of sky running into each other.
                      Is this how all of your "MSTS" skies look in OR? I ask, because none of the few skies released specifically for OR look this way in the game - especially with a tweaked skydome.
                      Neil

                      Chicago Railroading Fan

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                      • OTTODAD
                        1
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 32344
                        • England
                        • General

                        #12
                        Originally posted by qballbandit
                        Good system you have, but I have to comment - and not in a mean way, that your "latest sky" picture doesn't look like any real sky from this planet. You have multiple suns, and skewed, oddly angled pieces of sky running into each other.
                        Is this how all of your "MSTS" skies look in OR? I ask, because none of the few skies released specifically for OR look this way in the game - especially with a tweaked skydome.
                        That's some of the problems I had when I tried to change them a while ago and am happy now with the one downloaded from ET !



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                        • MsSheare
                          1500 Post Veteran
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1586
                          • Brough UK

                          #13
                          Well I know that my Kosmos HITW use to work in OR now it no longer does. I can get the various sounds but nothing else. So does this mean this is no longer usable? Or is there a way to work around OR.

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                          • nicober
                            Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 39
                            • Quebec - Canada

                            #14
                            OK I admit my image is to deep in color. I pushed de OR setting CRTL + ( = ) to hight. Also the choice of my FOV was too large probably over 60º. The original image look like my first image posted, probably taken with a polarizing filter. This is the reason why the sky is so deep blue in color and I wanted to have the same effect in OR. Sorry it`s my error to use a too great FOV and increase really too hight the setting sky of OR. After many trials, the setting of OR for this image is the most relevant.

                            I just wanted to show it`s possible to make quickly a new sky for OR, but I realize that I used a bad image to demonstrate it.
                            I made it seamless with The Gimp option, but it`s not perfect. Probably I can remove multiple suns by hand with Photoshop but for the rest, I can just reduce the artifact. Some photographies work fine but some others are very difficult to match perfectly.

                            Today I take an other screen with the default OR setting for sky and with a FOV of 38º. The result is quite different. Same time of the day about 12:05 .

                            Open Rails 2016-06-08 01-34-19.jpg


                            Originally posted by qballbandit
                            Is this how all of your "MSTS" skies look in OR? I ask, because none of the few skies released specifically for OR look this way in the game - especially with a tweaked skydome.
                            All my other skies look really seamless but not perfect.

                            I will post a new image with some corrections about this sky.

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                            • OTTODAD
                              1
                              • Feb 2001
                              • 32344
                              • England
                              • General

                              #15
                              Much, much better, Nick and I like it.

                              Looking forward to more improvements, which will add another choice to the ORTS skies !

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