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  • chrisjw
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    • May 2016
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    • London, UK

    #1

    Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5.1 installation Problem

    Hi

    I'm trying to install Microsoft ,NET Framework 3.5.1 on WIN 7 machine, as per the Open Rails instructions. I've d/l Open Rails, but haven't installed it yet. It gets as far as nearly install completion, but then I get an error box "Turn Windows Features On or Off".......When I looked in Control Panel, the tick box for the .NET 3.5 was coloured blue (meaning it is only partly activated)......I have now got the box ticked along with it's drop down boxes, but I'm still getting the error message. I've tried re-booting, but it's still happening.

    I've tried searching on the forum for any similar posts, but cannot find any. can anyone help please?
    Last edited by Nels_Anderson; 06-05-2016, 06:46.
    Sarcasm...............A necessity, it appears.
  • OTTODAD
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    • Feb 2001
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    #2
    Originally posted by chrisjw
    I'm trying to install Microsoft ,NET Framework 3.5.1 on WIN 7 machine, as per the Open Rails instructions.
    This is the 3.5
    XNA Framework ORTS needs:

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=15163

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    • chrisjw
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      • May 2016
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      #3
      Originally posted by OTTODAD


      This is the 3.5
      XNA Framework ORTS needs:

      https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=15163
      Yes....I've d/l that & installed it......It's the .NET Framework 3.5.1 that they state is needed, that I am having problems with Otto.
      Sarcasm...............A necessity, it appears.

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      • OTTODAD
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        #4
        Originally posted by chrisjw
        Yes....I've d/l that & installed it......It's the .NET Framework 3.5.1 that they state is needed, that I am having problems with Otto.
        Have you downloaded it from here:

        https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=22

        and does it show in your
        Control Panel \ Programs and Features ?

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        • chrisjw
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          • May 2016
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          • London, UK

          #5
          Originally posted by OTTODAD


          Have you downloaded it from here:

          https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=22

          and does it show in your
          Control Panel \ Programs and Features ?
          I can't get that link to load Otto...........But no, it isn't showing in the programs installed......Only version .NET Framework 4.6.1. it says I need version 3.5.1 installed to make OR work properly.
          Sarcasm...............A necessity, it appears.

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          • chrisjw
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            • May 2016
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            #6
            Hang on though........It's listed in the Windows Features, so it must be installed already, I've ticked the box to activate it in "Turn Windows features on or off", so I presume it should be OK now.
            Sarcasm...............A necessity, it appears.

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            • chrisjw
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              • May 2016
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              #7
              Right.....I d/l Open Rails from the official site, as the link included in the installation guide is dead. It's Stable version 1.1. I installed it, then opened it from the desktop shortcut that was created. It opens fine & shows all the routes from MSTS. It says to click on New Game, but there isn't a New Game button, just a Start button....When I click on that, this happens...............

              Open Rails Error 1.jpg

              Please be warned!!!...........Nothing is ever straightforward for me.........Ask Ottoman..............lol
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              • OTTODAD
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                #8
                Don't forget to download the latest ORTS Testing update released, using the link in my Pinned post above !

                Some of these ORTS errors can be ignored, usually caused by something MSTS that ORTS has not been coded to deal with !

                They also create a LOG icon on your desktop you should attach to error posts !

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                • chrisjw
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                  • May 2016
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by OTTODAD
                  Don't forget to download the latest ORTS Testing update released, using the link in my Pinned post above !

                  Some of these ORTS errors can be ignored, usually caused by something MSTS that ORTS has not been coded to deal with !

                  They also create a LOG icon on your desktop you should attach to error posts !
                  I just typed a long reply, pressed send & it got lost, so I'll make this one shorter........

                  Do I install the test version on top of the stable one (i.e... is there a need to uninstall the stable one)
                  & just to clarify that I am installing it correctly, I created a "open Rails" folder outside of the main MSTS install folder & all the open rail files & folders are in it.
                  Sarcasm...............A necessity, it appears.

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                  • OTTODAD
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by chrisjw
                    Do I install the test version on top of the stable one (i.e... is there a need to uninstall the stable one)
                    YES and NO !

                    Just to clarify that I am installing it correctly, I created a "open Rails" folder outside of the main MSTS install folder & all the open rail files & folders are in it.
                    Yes, you can create a DRIVE:\ORTS etc folder anywhere on your WIN-7 computer, but best not in C:\ !

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                    • chrisjw
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                      • May 2016
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by OTTODAD


                      YES and NO !



                      Yes, you can create a DRIVE:\ORTS etc folder anywhere on your WIN-7 computer, but best not in C:\ !
                      & then I copy & paste the stable & test version contents into the ORTS folder yes?
                      Last edited by chrisjw; 06-05-2016, 11:10.
                      Sarcasm...............A necessity, it appears.

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                      • chrisjw
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                        • May 2016
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                        #12
                        I'm obviously doing something wrong, as I've installed the test version on top of the stable one & still getting the same error.........I've spent long enough messing about with this today & my brain hurts, so I'm going to leave it for now............it's either my folder structure & what I've put in them, or where/how I've installed it.........I'm off for a sim flight around London for an hour...................lol
                        Sarcasm...............A necessity, it appears.

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                        • OTTODAD
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                          #13
                          Hi Chris !

                          There is nothing wrong with your install of ORTS, which in its own folder on drive E:\, I presume, should contain what mine does and if it does not will report whatever is wrong in its Run-Time LOG !

                          Anything not working is more likely caused by what route / activity / rolling stock you are trying to run or what your ORTS Options settings are.

                          Have a look at mine and set yours accordingly !

                          Most Simulators, including MSFS, need some settings adjusted so that they run satisfactory on a variety of computers, using another variety of hardware and graphics installed and there not being precise HOW-TO manuals much is a lot of TRIAL & ERROR !







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                          • chrisjw
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                            #14
                            OK.....After a lot of faffing about, I've managed to narrow the problem down. Each time I've opened OR, I've chosen the Marias Pass route, just to ensure everything was working & I got the error box every time. I've just clicked on one of the Oriental routes, clicked start & everything loaded & worked. So I tried all the stock MSTS routes & narrowed it down to these 2 not working, which are both North American, I believe............This is a screenshot of one of the error logs......................

                            ORTS install error.jpg
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                            • crstagg
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by chrisjw
                              OK.....After a lot of faffing about, I've managed to narrow the problem down. Each time I've opened OR, I've chosen the Marias Pass route, just to ensure everything was working & I got the error box every time. I've just clicked on one of the Oriental routes, clicked start & everything loaded & worked. So I tried all the stock MSTS routes & narrowed it down to these 2 not working, which are both North American, I believe............This is a screenshot of one of the error logs......................

                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]69950[/ATTACH]

                              Looks like a problem with the Longhale.pat file. Go to your USA2\Paths folder. Create a TEMP folder and move the Longhale.pat file to it. Then restart OR. Choose any path other than Longhale. On my install it shows as <unnamed, longhale> Those < > indicate a problem.
                              Last edited by crstagg; 06-05-2016, 13:21.
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