Second Shape in Alleghany Rails

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  • Don6218
    1500 Post Veteran
    • Jun 2009
    • 1834
    • Oshawa ON

    #1

    Second Shape in Alleghany Rails

    The two S-2s that are part of the Allegheny Rails Activities seem to have an issue with opening the "Second-Shape" or FA. They are by Michael Stephan, June 20, 2006, and are the BLE S-2 #291 & 292.

    The main shape opens in the activity, but not the FA, of either one. They show up properly in Shape Viewer and neither ConBuilder nor RR finds any issues with the loco shapes. I have noticed that most newer models have the FA listed directly below the main shape file, these have the FA near the end of the file, maybe a problem with the way OR reads the files? I no longer utilize MSTS, so trying them in MSTS is not an option.

    I am using Version X-3543. Any suggestions?
  • crstagg
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    • Nov 1999
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    #2
    You said the FA is listed near the end of the file. Which Section is it in? Engine or Wagon? Should be in the Wagon Section. See the Engine-Wagon DOC in the Tech Documents on the CD. (I have mine copied to a folder in main MSTS install.

    Does OR Log show Warning or Error message for the FA?
    Last edited by crstagg; 05-23-2016, 20:32.
    Charles

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    • Don6218
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      • Jun 2009
      • 1834
      • Oshawa ON

      #3
      The Log for OR does show something:

      Warning: Expected depth 0; got depth 1 at end of file (missing ')'?) in D:\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\BLE_S2_291\BLE-S2-291.eng:line 569

      Warning: Expected depth 0; got depth 1 at end of file (missing ')'?) in D:\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\BLE_S2_291\BLE-S2-291.eng:line 569

      ************************************************** ************************************************** **********

      Here is the Eng File for #291 (292 is identical):
      BLE-S2-291.zip

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      • crstagg
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        • Nov 1999
        • 4885
        • Huntsville, AL
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        • MSOR

        #4
        Originally posted by agebhard
        Using Simis Editor I found a missing right parenthesis after Friction and before BrakeEquipmentType.

        Code:
         Friction (
          1094.1N/m/s  -0.10  1.4mph  14.154N/m/s  1.869
          5.1N/rad/s  1  -1rad/s  0  1
        [B] )[/B]
        
         BrakeEquipmentType ( "Triple_valve, Auxilary_reservoir,Emergency_brake_reservoir"   )
        MSTS Editors & Tools
        http://jgrmsts.codeplex.com/
        ?? I just Downloaded the two files and found that the closing paren for friction is present. BUT on the second line down not on the next line.
        Friction (
        1094.1N/m/s -0.10 1.4mph 14.154N/m/s 1.869
        5.1N/rad/s 1 -1rad/s 0 1

        )
        BrakeEquipmentType ( "Triple_valve, Auxilary_reservoir,Emergency_brake_reservoir" )
        Same for both ENG files. Closing paren for Friction on line 58 with a blank line on line 57.

        Don,
        As I stated above I just downloaded 291 & 292. Test OK with ConBuilder. Created a consist. Ran OR. FAs displayed with no problem.

        The Eng-Wag reference doc lists the FreightAnim line occurring just before Friction. You might move it to that location and see if it helps. But as I said they displayed OK for me and I did not move them. But where did you both download them from? I got them from the T-S library file ble_s4.zip. I just tested this and the lack of closing paren for Friction will cause the error you observed.

        Concerning the OR Log error message. The Eng-Wag Reference document does not provide a sample format for the line. A sample is provided in another document that explains how to use it for an ANTIMATED FA such as the coal in a tender and the format shown is:
        FreightAnim ( shapefile.s # # # )
        That is why OR expects 3 #s and logs an error. You can ignore this error or add another 1 and space to the line.
        Charles

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        • Don6218
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          • Jun 2009
          • 1834
          • Oshawa ON

          #5
          Thank you very much Charles. I will make those changes. I am lost when it comes to some of the jargon when these lists are produced.

          Yes, those are the ones I have from here.

          I usually compare a working file and a non-working one to try a solve the issue, I should have tried the Switchers I have for the DAR route, they have a similar FA and they work fine on DAR in Open Rails.
          Last edited by Don6218; 05-24-2016, 16:00.

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